Why not to lock your phone (safety)

[iYRe]

Serves those dumbasses right for carrying important shit around without being encrypted.

encryption can be broken.

[Big Dave]

I'm yet to see someone not carry their own phone.
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how many ride by themselves that this would be a problem?

Me. I mostly ride alone and rarely carry a phone.

[SMOKEU]

encryption can be broken.

If it's well encrypted with a good algorithm and long, complex password then it's pretty secure. 99% of people wouldn't know how to break it, and the average laptop or low end desktop is crap at brute force attacks.

[Mushu]

encryption can be broken.

To break decent encryption takes a fair bit of knowledge and skill far beyond the scope of any regular phone thief, they are far more likely to wipe the phone so they can get into it and sell it

[iYRe]

To break decent encryption takes a fair bit of knowledge and skill far beyond the scope of any regular phone thief, they are far more likely to wipe the phone so they can get into it and sell it

If it's well encrypted with a good algorithm and long, complex password then it's pretty secure. 99% of people wouldn't know how to break it, and the average laptop or low end desktop is crap at brute force attacks.

Yep, I agree, but still.. it can be broken. I was asked to help on a project where people had to be able to get into certain countries, access information, and not be traceable, or have any record of what they had done or who they were on their computers... we decided encryption wasn't a big enough deterrent.

Anyway.. best idea is not to rely on mobile device security to protect your goodies, be it phone, tablet, laptop, or whatever. If someone wants your stuff.. they'll get it.

[Hitcher]

Why not get one's ICE details tattooed on one's forehead?

[Akzle]

encryption can be broken.

i would challenge you to break the hardware level encryption on my phone. detected or otherwise.

To break decent encryption takes a fair bit of knowledge and skill far beyond the scope of any regular phone thief, they are far more likely to wipe the phone so they can get into it and sell it

i would challenge you to wipe an encrypted memory chip.
low level write access would require pulling the phone apart , desoldering the chip and putting it into a pinout pcb where it can be fucked up via serial badassery...

my phone becomes a shiney brick when it's not attached to me...



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that might be firmware level.. now i cry.

[iYRe]

i would challenge you to break the hardware level encryption on my phone. detected or otherwise.

i would challenge you to wipe an encrypted memory chip.
low level write access would require pulling the phone apart , desoldering the chip and putting it into a pinout pcb where it can be fucked up via serial badassery...

my phone becomes a shiney brick when it's not attached to me...



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that might be firmware level.. now i cry.

your point being that it can be done.. just not easily..

[bobsmith]

i would challenge you to break the hardware level encryption on my phone. detected or otherwise.

i would challenge you to wipe an encrypted memory chip.
low level write access would require pulling the phone apart , desoldering the chip and putting it into a pinout pcb where it can be fucked up via serial badassery...

my phone becomes a shiney brick when it's not attached to me...



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that might be firmware level.. now i cry.

Okay, I'm curious. What phone do you have? Most "security" features I've seen on android and iOS are fairly crap and I'd never rely on them... Hell on my S3 I can plug the phone into the computer and all the files are visible with the phone still locked (I remember the blackberries we had had better security) and I'm pretty android doesn't support data encryption...

[Big Dave]

Why not get one's ICE details tattooed on one's forehead?

Over here, Ice is 'P'.

They would probably scratch it off.

[Grashopper]

+1 for the dogtags

My phone does not need a pin or anything to be unlocked. If it gets stolen I hope the thief has lots of fun with my collection of scenic bike photos...
My laptops are unlocked, cause anyone can access the information on the harddrives anyway if they get stolen. I did have a TrueCrypt folder though cause I was getting a bit paranoid before my flight to the US. Unfortunately I can't remember the password anymore now...

[Akzle]

your point being that it can be done.. just not easily..

jah. not likely to be done by the niggers who steal phones.

Okay, I'm curious. What phone do you have? Most "security" features I've seen on android and iOS are fairly crap and I'd never rely on them... Hell on my S3 I can plug the phone into the computer and all the files are visible with the phone still locked (I remember the blackberries we had had better security) and I'm pretty android doesn't support data encryption...

bwahahahahahahahah. you clearly don't follow me, d'ya? i would never voluntarily carry a jewgle tracking device. and if i had the money to waste on crapple products, i'd probably buy hookers and blow instead.

its a nokia, and not running windows.

+1 for the dogtags

My phone does not need a pin or anything to be unlocked. If it gets stolen I hope the thief has lots of fun with my collection of scenic bike photos...
My laptops are unlocked, cause anyone can access the information on the harddrives anyway if they get stolen. I did have a TrueCrypt folder though cause I was getting a bit paranoid before my flight to the US. Unfortunately I can't remember the password anymore now...

a can of freon and a bash script will clear that right up.
infact, i think photorec might be able to pull your shit even through the encryption...
step 1: try linux.

[cheshirecat]

Use face unlock so it recognises me in the helmet. Works most of the time!

[Berries]

I would prefer that no contacts in my phone are rung from a crash site. What's the point? The lucky finder can ring 111 from their own phone and I'll let them take it from there.

FFS. A night in hospital might be the only night of peace and quiet I get, fuck having the family standing around. In fact, rather than remove the password I have just changed the word HOME to HELL PIZZA. Not only will the family not turn up I might get a slice of pizza out of it. Sweet.

[MarkH]

I use a pin number to unlock my phone - complete protection from accidentally dialling someone and better security.
Why do I need security? Well, my E-Mail (in & out) is available through my phone as well as all contacts, calendar, photos, etc.

I do have my mum's number as a ICE number which can be dialled without unlocking the phone - using an S4 like Smiffy.