Stupid World

[mashman]

Big fish.

See I would really like to think that we could change the banking system and everything would be fixed. But doesn't matter where you swim. There will always be sharks, or tiny little fish that leech off you.
If we change money so that the bankers couldn't enslave us, what next? The big fish might turn something else. Organ removal or Child sales.

Paying someone my life in money might not be the best option. But better the devil you know than the one you don't. You think prisoners miss the sunlight? Fuck no! they miss not being fucked in the arse.
Take the bankers money away - they might come fuck you in the arse instead.

How are they going to sell children if there's no money for them to be bought with?

[jonbuoy]

So they were lies then? and you can prove it? otherwise the vid was factual.

It was a generalised comment that given a snazzy background and some cool graphics, select video footage to highlight select facts (sometimes out of context) "Internet Facts" seem to be taken more seriously - people seem to be less likely to double check figures themselves.

I´m sure were all slowly learning that we can waste our time dredging up another video or set of "internet facts" or reports or news articles opposing someone else's chosen views - but really its a total waste of our time and energy. If you care that deeply about a subject you would be far better off doing something about it in the real world.

[Brian d marge]

It was a generalised comment that given a snazzy background and some cool graphics, select video footage to highlight select facts (sometimes out of context) "Internet Facts" seem to be taken more seriously - people seem to be less likely to double check figures themselves.

I´m sure were all slowly learning that we can waste our time dredging up another video or set of "internet facts" or reports or news articles opposing someone else's chosen views - but really its a total waste of our time and energy. If you care that deeply about a subject you would be far better off doing something about it in the real world.

here are some more internet facts


http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8987...of-child-abuse

tis what people in the know have been saying for years, I myself have been quoting , a book about poverty in mexico

As for doing something , One person cant , but its not much effort to keep people thinking about it ...eg , KB, letters to the pollys etc

So basically as per the link , if you disenfanchise a group , they act in stange ways , ( Im not convinced its also a race thing , more of an upbringing based on circumstance )

Stephen

[mashman]

The argument for Land Value Tax... How does this solve debt? Because I can't see how it does. Sure it may make housing and to an extent goods and services cheaper and it may well indeed spur growth... I'd argue that this will change absolutely fuck all because the economic model simply does not change, only the prices of "stuff" changes. We'd still have the climate challenges to deal with, rampant demand, poverty, the 3rd world, fighting over resources etc... So what does any of that ultimately achieve? It's just more shifting of the chairs

[mashman]

It was a generalised comment that given a snazzy background and some cool graphics, select video footage to highlight select facts (sometimes out of context) "Internet Facts" seem to be taken more seriously - people seem to be less likely to double check figures themselves.

I´m sure were all slowly learning that we can waste our time dredging up another video or set of "internet facts" or reports or news articles opposing someone else's chosen views - but really its a total waste of our time and energy. If you care that deeply about a subject you would be far better off doing something about it in the real world.

Not everyone sits and accepts what they are told by the internet and those who dwell within. Come the day there will be a push for change and in amongst that I will be there with my push for "my" change. The above LVT or any other variation of taxation in the name of "solving" the issues of the day are utterly ignorant to the issues that we have. So you just sit there and do nothing as you obviously believe that everything is sweet.

[jonbuoy]

Not everyone sits and accepts what they are told by the internet and those who dwell within. Come the day there will be a push for change and in amongst that I will be there with my push for "my" change. The above LVT or any other variation of taxation in the name of "solving" the issues of the day are utterly ignorant to the issues that we have. So you just sit there and do nothing as you obviously believe that everything is sweet.

A generalised comment that wasn't even referring to the video it was a response to the poster on poverty levels in the USA and "Internet facts" in general which applies to both sides of any discussion . It's very hard to discuss anything logically with you as you always leap into a hyper defensive mode.

[mashman]

A generalised comment that wasn't even referring to the video it was a response to the poster on poverty levels in the USA and "Internet facts" in general which applies to both sides of any discussion . It's very hard to discuss anything logically with you as you always leap into a hyper defensive mode.

So you we weren't trying to separate "REAL" facts from "internet facts"? That wasn't the context? And then going on to call posting videos a waste of time in lieu of not having gone to the source? A source known to lie and fudge figures. So internet facts and snazzy video holds less credibility? @defensive mode. As with any fulla at the other side of the screen, you will translate what you wish how you wish to. You cite a lack of logic and throw up the comparison of REAL v Internet facts, really? The funny thing is, for all of you statistics purists, is that the numbers generally don't mean a fuckin thing, because they actually highlight an issue. That people can get bogged down by arguing the numbers shows a serious lack of logic to begin with. They internet facts DO make a point, that's the whole point.

[jonbuoy]

So you we weren't trying to separate "REAL" facts from "internet facts"? That wasn't the context? And then going on to call posting videos a waste of time in lieu of not having gone to the source? A source known to lie and fudge figures. So internet facts and snazzy video holds less credibility? @defensive mode. As with any fulla at the other side of the screen, you will translate what you wish how you wish to. You cite a lack of logic and throw up the comparison of REAL v Internet facts, really? The funny thing is, for all of you statistics purists, is that the numbers generally don't mean a fuckin thing, because they actually highlight an issue. That people can get bogged down by arguing the numbers shows a serious lack of logic to begin with. They internet facts DO make a point, that's the whole point.

Mashman eventually no one is even going to bother replying to your posts, your not interested in having a reasonable or logical discussion about anything - including it would seem questioning "facts" thrown around on the internet. I could have almost presicted your reply to my post - even down to the usual ROFL smiley. Tell me do you actually belong to any politics forums?

[mashman]

Mashman eventually no one is even going to bother replying to your posts, your not interested in having a reasonable or logical discussion about anything - including it would seem questioning "facts" thrown around on the internet. I could have almost presicted your reply to my post - even down to the usual ROFL smiley. Tell me do you actually belong to any politics forums?

really? no one will reply to me... oh end of days how bitter they sting. Troll fail! Not even worthy of stringing it out any further.

[mashman]

"The poisoning caused by artisanal mining from a gold rush killed at least 400 children, yet villagers still say they would rather die of lead poisoning than poverty, environmental scientist Simba Tirima told the Associated Press Friday. Villagers make 10 times as much money mining as they do from farming in an area suffering erratic rainfall because of climate change, he said."... Problem and cause in one paragraph.

[blue rider]

got to love a little animation now and then





and another one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvpQu7NY420
ahhh, its a lovely day for a ride......

[blue rider]

and this is a good read, really it is

http://www.vice.com/read/it-dont-git...Contentpage=-1

[blue rider]

another good read...the lament of our times

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/08/...aduate-degree/

We followed the path laid out; went to university, studied hard in a specific field, and then found out they weren’t planning on employing us. Well unless we got a degree in business administration, very well educated in managerialism or the gruesome post-managerialism of Google where the office becomes your home. They said you are free, free to choose a job already chosen for you by a cruel labor market, driven by a calculus ruling out any idea of autonomy or self-determination. We are all a statistic, a statistic of debt, a statistic of dreams torn asunder by a reality uncaring.

See, this is when you realize the point of corporations is not to employ people, but profit. There is no focus on actually employing people, instead it’s quite the reverse. Mergers for lay-offs, pay cuts for labor and a pay raise for the capitalists, and increases in stock prices on the backs of stolen pension funds. The inverted proportion between wages and profits goes on; Marx rings true a century later. And yet, they blame me for my unemployment. They say, “Well, you should have chosen a different field, one where there is employment.” And the freedom they tout means nothing here, not a damn thing! You have the freedom to choose what was already chosen for you.

So, here I go channeling Proudhon:

To be unemployed is to be demoralized, dejected, depressed, rejected, and humiliated every time an HR representative sits across from you during an interview judging, evaluating, analyzing, and objectifying you without knowing, considering, understanding, or empathizing with the fact that you are a living, breathing, talking, walking, and social human being who has needs, wants, desires, and dreams.

[avgas]

another good read...the lament of our times

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/08/...aduate-degree/

You forgot the best part..

.....I recently left graduate school after completing my MA in Sociology......

Lament my ass - when did a MA in Sociology ever get you a job?

"Sociology is the scientific study of human social behavior and its origins, development, organizations, and institutions.^[1] It is a social science which uses various methods of empirical investigation^[2] and critical analysis^[3] to develop a body of knowledge about human social actions, social structure and functions.

And yet this person can't figure out the hack on how to get a job. Isn't that like a mechanic who doesn't know how to work on cars? A sales guy who hates talking to people?
Your going to go far kid.

[blue rider]

You forgot the best part..


Lament my ass - when did a MA in Sociology ever get you a job?

"Sociology is the scientific study of human social behavior and its origins, development, organizations, and institutions.^[1] It is a social science which uses various methods of empirical investigation^[2] and critical analysis^[3] to develop a body of knowledge about human social actions, social structure and functions.

And yet this person can't figure out the hack on how to get a job. Isn't that like a mechanic who doesn't know how to work on cars? A sales guy who hates talking to people?
Your going to go far kid.

how about a petition to stop teaching stuff because one can't find a job? Oh and there are many people in sales who don't like talking, pretty much anyone in retail in NZ only speaks if they have too. Really, worst service providers ever are white NZ'lers that have to work in the service industry....they can't serve coffee, nor answer emails, nor provide service....they stand and wait till they are called or can't discourage the potential customer any longer.

But unemployment is always the fault of the unemployed.....as it was said in the linked article....He should have studied something else....frying fries at MacDo maybe?