Only blue gang patches and vests allowed. And shit

[Scuba_Steve]

Ok, I consider myself an ordinary person, I dont know everything. I am curious, what extortion is the police engaged in? I dont mean the bad apples which will appear in every facet of society and are usually individuals or small groups of individuals. Are you saying there is systemic extortion, corruption and scams perpetrated by the police force in NZ that I, as an ordinary citizen, am a target of? Seriously, are we going to have speeding cameras as an example of state extortion? High Rego costs? Taxes?

I find it really hard to believe that this or any government in NZ or the police have any desire to oppress anyone. I grew up in a place where holding the "wrong" political beliefs meant you could disappear never to be seen again or be shot or blown up on the way to work. I find it amazing when those in my adopted country consider the NZ state and its organisations in any way oppressive. It is only the freedom we enjoy here that allows us the cushion of such thinking.

Yea well I'll skip over the speed scam as that's a massive extortionist scam in itself & will waste many a server space on it's own, but the whole infringement/fine system in itself is an extortion you in no way under NZ law have a responsibility to pay it doing so is an admission of guilt, you don't have to prove your innocence under law it is upto the Gang accusing you to prove your guilt but this is not how the system of corruption works it instead they extort that money from you without prove of guilt without conviction without legal right. most simply pay because fighting it has been made hard to a point it's not worth it, even just missing half a day of work to prove the default is too much for most

Are freedoms being eroded? I have to acknowledge I have only been here for 6 years so relatively speaking my historical context is limited. HOWEVER, New Zealand is still by any measure a free society with low levels of corruption. That doesnt mean things can't be done better!

Yes! Just because we're still better than most doesn't justify the erosion of our rights & laws. We should NEVER be going "well we're not as oppressed as North Korea, so we still have 'freedom'" instead we should be looking at what rights are afforded to us by law, what rights should be afforded to us & what rights have been taken from us & force them to give us those rights!

[scumdog]

The police day in day out break ours laws especially the ones written specifically written to protect "the people" from extortion, corruption & scams perpetrated by this gang & their (also illegal) 'masters', so they break not only the letter but also the spirt/purpose of the law.

The police gang is supposed to be answerable to 'the people' which is why the Govt want's this GSCB bill so they have an oppression tool not answerable to 'the people'

Yea, if we're talking the Police gang they could stop breaking the law, scamming & extorting money, do their job & stop being the Govts bitch.

Wa-wa-fucking-wa, cry me a river sunshine....

[MIXONE]

I have a question, which guy, who may or may not come and stand next to my daughter, while she's standing at say a bus stop, is the gang member who has to rape to earn his patch and which is not ?

I thought that had stopped after the Amberley Park thing back in the late 70's early 80's?

[Akzle]

I have a question, which guy, who may or may not come and stand next to my daughter, while she's standing at say a bus stop, is the gang member who has to rape to earn his patch and which is not ?

clint rick// who?

[mossy1200]

I people didn't do harm to each other we wouldn't need laws.

[Road kill]

I people didn't do harm to each other we wouldn't need laws.

Step away from the Doobie motherfucker !

[Akzle]

Slow tubes out your way azkel? Didn't this shit happen years ago...

i think i need to warm the valves up more before giving them the full load...
No. I meant the new tomfuckery.

[Akzle]

Assuming you are referring to the police, is their role not to enforce the laws of the land which are enacted by Parliament?

The police enforce laws supported by the majority, not an ideology. If you dont like the laws, change your representation.

I have a question. If we accept not all gang members are bad people is there anything the gangs can do to change how they are perceived or does the remainder of non-gang society just have to suck it up and not have their fears or concerns addressed?

nooooohoohohoooo.
The 'law of the land' has FUKEN NOTHING to do with parliament. The law of the land binds everyone equally.
LEGISLATION is the shit parliament cranks out, its company policy, but i aint an employee.

You might be happy with mob rule, but i dont accept it. I dont grant you jurisdiction over me.

Funny enough, total number of times ive had my house done over by 'criminal gangs' and my shit taken: 0.
Number of times the police have forcibly entered my private property and taken my shit: 3.
So. Who am i more worried about theft without recourse?

[scumdog]

Funny enough, total number of times ive had my house done over by 'criminal gangs' and my shit taken: 0.
Number of times the police have forcibly entered my private property and taken my shit: 3.
So. Who am i more worried about theft without recourse?

Well aint you the lucky one - it's 0 x 2 for me!

[mossy1200]

nooooohoohohoooo.
The 'law of the land' has FUKEN NOTHING to do with parliament. The law of the land binds everyone equally.
LEGISLATION is the shit parliament cranks out, its company policy, but i aint an employee.

You might be happy with mob rule, but i dont accept it. I dont grant you jurisdiction over me.

Funny enough, total number of times ive had my house done over by 'criminal gangs' and my shit taken: 0.
Number of times the police have forcibly entered my private property and taken my shit: 3.
So. Who am i more worried about theft without recourse?

Ive had about $300 in fines in 20years.

One bike stolen and my work van broken into 3 times.

Idd rather double my $300 hire purchase for increased fuz protection and zero burglaries. Im correct in assuming my $300 was well spent?

[Akzle]

Ive had about $300 in fines in 20years.

One bike stolen and my work van broken into 3 times.

Idd rather double my $300 hire purchase for increased fuz protection and zero burglaries. Im correct in assuming my $300 was well spent?

so far theres no evidence that police reduce crime at all.

But this wasnt supposd to be a cop bash thread. Just an injustice overlording dictator state one.

[skippa1]

Yea well I'll skip over the speed scam as that's a massive extortionist scam in itself & will waste many a server space on it's own, but the whole infringement/fine system in itself is an extortion you in no way under NZ law have a responsibility to pay it doing so is an admission of guilt, you don't have to prove your innocence under law it is upto the Gang accusing you to prove your guilt but this is not how the system of corruption works it instead they extort that money from you without prove of guilt without conviction without legal right. most simply pay because fighting it has been made hard to a point it's not worth it, even just missing half a day of work to prove the default is too much

You must be one unlucky prick or just kiddin yourself. I have only had fines imposed for things I am guilty of.........

[unstuck]

Bit like all butchers are pricks if one of them gives you one less sausage.:devil2

[98tls]

Wow this is different eh a thread devoted to ranting about cops

[Scuba_Steve]

You must be one unlucky prick or just kiddin yourself. I have only had fines imposed for things I am guilty of.........

Unlucky (or marked) But I've had many I'm not guilty of incl 2 current for vehicle licences which I have NZTA licence certs showing my innocence, will the Police accept them? not at all, why would they, they can't make moneys that way.
But regardless of innocence the way the whole thing is run is extortion & illegal under law