Inside New Zealand

[mashman]

The resources are not there.
There are simply not enough tradesmen in this country.
Did the documentary maker answer the question?
What were her circumstances?
Why was she not in emergency housing?
Like you, he was big on propaganda and short on facts.

Yes they are.
Yes there are. Tradesmen can be quite proficient in any number of simple tasks such as joining pipes, connecting electrical connectors, banging nails into wood. I'm not diminishing their skill by any means, but I have done these jobs myself in the past without the need of a skilled trades person.
Which question?
That doesn't matter, she, and her 3 kids, are not housed.
She, and her 3 kids, are living in tents.
Bollocks. He asked questions and gave very few answers, the questions he asked all seated in fact. A woman and her kids in tents are facts. As are any others living in garages, without jobs, feeling the pinch etc...

[Oscar]

No, that's left up to the watcher... and economists and politicians etc... Still though, I did ask you for an answer.

You asked me for an answer?
How would I possibly know that?
There was no explanation given, just the use of her and her family for propaganda purposes..

[mashman]

You asked me for an answer?
How would I possibly know that?
There was no explanation given, just the use of her and her family for propaganda purposes..

Yes. You told me that my point was irrelevant. I pointed out that it was and asked why the woman, an her kids, are not housed. Her circumstances are irrelevant. Propaganda? You fuckin muppet... hand up yer arse so far there's got to be an ulterior motive for showing someone who's homeless

[avgas]

I have been inside new zealand. It's just dirt.

[avgas]

Tracy lives with family but they won't give them the lounge - so they have to live in a tent. Family love there.

[Oscar]

Yes. You told me that my point was irrelevant. I pointed out that it was and asked why the woman, an her kids, are not housed. Her circumstances are irrelevant. Propaganda? You fuckin muppet... hand up yer arse so far there's got to be an ulterior motive for showing someone who's homeless

You have a real comprehension problem, don't you?
I said the documentry makers point was irrelevant.
The fact that your points are irrelevant is pretty obvious to all concerned.

[avgas]

Family and student allowance.

More family love there - if you don't love your'e job you must love your'e family and keep working for them. Study part time (night school) like the rest of us.

[BMWST?]

Yes. You told me that my point was irrelevant. I pointed out that it was and asked why the woman, an her kids, are not housed. Her circumstances are irrelevant. Propaganda? You fuckin muppet... hand up yer arse so far there's got to be an ulterior motive for showing someone who's homeless

Whatever her circumstances in arriving at thst place its not something I like to see in our country and regardless of the politics of the program illustrates that something is broken.there is no way a mother and 3 kids should spend a winter in a tent

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[avgas]

asset sales.

Government are terrible management, nz are too poor to buy. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

We need a middle ground, when the government gives the the assets (in equal shares) to the people - say 50%. Then sells the rest.
Take the whole thing off the government hands, but put it in those whom need AND want it.

[avgas]

[BoristheBiter]

You might of also noticed that in NZ you can rip off the country for millions in tax fraud and get away with it,,but if you commit benefit fraud for a few thou' your likely to go to jail.

Two laws,,,one for the super rich and another for the peasants.

That's because tax fraud is not giving all of what you earned.
Benefit fraud is just plain stealing as you haven't earned it in the first place.

You go and start a company, build it with your money, time and effort and then give it all away to those that do not get out of bed until they feel like it and you will see the difference until then you are just another monkey on the "something for nothing" " all company's are evil" band wagon.

[BMWST?]

That's because tax fraud is not giving all of what you earned.
Benefit fraud is just plain stealing as you haven't earned it in the first place.

You go and start a company, build it with your money, time and effort and then give it all away to those that do not get out of bed until they feel like it and you will see the difference until then you are just another monkey on the "something for nothing" " all company's are evil" band wagon.

Bullshit theft is theft.

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[BoristheBiter]

Bullshit theft is theft.

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So all this left bollocks of they only commit crime because they are poor is it's self bollocks?
Who would have thunk?

[avgas]

Helen Kelly.

A teacher who is no longer a teacher. A lawyer who never was a lawyer. Now a union boss.
Gotta give her credit - she saw a way to upgrade her career and do less work.

[Ocean1]

And why is that,,,,,, oh gifted one ?

Stephen

Because they're focused on buying votes, not rewarding enterprise or hard work.