SV650s SV1000s differences?

[BuzzardNZ]

Couldn't agree more. I rode a litre gixxer and decided it would get me into trouble far too quickly. I prefer lighter weight anyway.

I know top end wise the gsxr 600 will dominate the sv1000, but how about off the mark to 160kph?

Reason I ask is that I did exactly this at the lights vs an R6 and I seemed to have the edge, but I kinda wondered if the R6 was holding back ( as per normal, no corners involved or I'd know he was holding back ( SV horrid suspenders )

[Drew]

I know top end wise the gsxr 600 will dominate the sv1000, but how about off the mark to 160kph?

Reason I ask is that I did exactly this at the lights vs an R6 and I seemed to have the edge, but I kinda wondered if the R6 was holding back ( as per normal, no corners involved or I'd know he was holding back ( SV horrid suspenders )

The six will fucken smash it! More power, weighs less, made of better equipment.

[Monty69]

The six will fucken smash it! More power, weighs less, made of better equipment.

The six would smash it everywhere, except in a drag race. My sv650 pulled 12.041sec 1/4 mile pass, kawasakis new 636 runs an 11.8, so id bet an sv1000 could beat that easy.

[BuzzardNZ]

The six would smash it everywhere, except in a drag race. My sv650 pulled 12.041sec 1/4 mile pass, kawasakis new 636 runs an 11.8, so id bet an sv1000 could beat that easy.

That was my question really, asking if the sv would do it in a drag, sounds like it will... too a point.

[Runt]

I own an SV1000S - I have ridden a 650 but it was just too low powered.
Both are comparatively low on power for their cubic capacities and built to a budget - but you get what you pay for so I've no complaints in that regard - if you want the best - pay for the best.
I bought the SV as a "sensible option" cause I'm getting long in the tooth, ride every day, and it's only occasionally that I want more than it can give.
Power wise its comparable to a 600cc "real" sportsbike - but its also easy real world power - accesible for everyday use.
Handling wise - Ok - just keep it smooth - the limits arrive earlier but not suddenly - you know when you're near the edge
I still often lust after GSXR's R1's ZX10's and Blades - but I've ridden them all and know that for 95% of the time I'm as quick on the SV.
(Would love to try a BMW RR though)
My only real niggle is the horrible budget slipper clutch's action which makes it awkward to launch hard consistently.
Otherwise its a pretty good allrounder - light enough and nimble enough for my 65 kgs to chuck around and a slim profile for traffic dodging.
If you do want high speeds you need to work it a bit - but you can still destroy 4 wheelers and a lot of 2 wheelers easily/comfortably
Plus - you don't accidently wander into licence dissolving territory too often - the few times I venture over 200 - i know I'm speeding - GSXr's etc often "suck you in" to warpspeeds without really meaning to
As for the 650 - I only rode a friends one for a few k's - so can't really say if the handling was any better
Personally the 650's power is just not enough - but then again the 1000 is less than what I'd been used to - it would probably keep you happy if moving up from a 250 or similar.

[Laava]

I own an SV1000S - I have ridden a 650 but it was just too low powered.
Both are comparatively low on power for their cubic capacities and built to a budget - but you get what you pay for so I've no complaints in that regard - if you want the best - pay for the best.
I bought the SV as a "sensible option" cause I'm getting long in the tooth, ride every day, and it's only occasionally that I want more than it can give.
Power wise its comparable to a 600cc "real" sportsbike - but its also easy real world power - accesible for everyday use.
Handling wise - Ok - just keep it smooth - the limits arrive earlier but not suddenly - you know when you're near the edge
I still often lust after GSXR's R1's ZX10's and Blades - but I've ridden them all and know that for 95% of the time I'm as quick on the SV.
(Would love to try a BMW RR though)
My only real niggle is the horrible budget slipper clutch's action which makes it awkward to launch hard consistently.
Otherwise its a pretty good allrounder - light enough and nimble enough for my 65 kgs to chuck around and a slim profile for traffic dodging.
If you do want high speeds you need to work it a bit - but you can still destroy 4 wheelers and a lot of 2 wheelers easily/comfortably
Plus - you don't accidently wander into licence dissolving territory too often - the few times I venture over 200 - i know I'm speeding - GSXr's etc often "suck you in" to warpspeeds without really meaning to
As for the 650 - I only rode a friends one for a few k's - so can't really say if the handling was any better
Personally the 650's power is just not enough - but then again the 1000 is less than what I'd been used to - it would probably keep you happy if moving up from a 250 or similar.

They have a slipper clutch? Serious question as I have a similar engine in the v strom and am fairly sure there is no slipper in there.

[Runt]

They have a slipper clutch? Serious question as I have a similar engine in the v strom and am fairly sure there is no slipper in there.

They describe it as such - and I did read a suggestion somewhere that the clutch action could be improved by using a v strom clutch - so I assume they share a basket but differ internally

[BuzzardNZ]

no 'proper' slipper clutch as far as I know. nice to be proven otherwise though.

[Runt]

no 'proper' slipper clutch as far as I know. nice to be proven otherwise though.

Not a true slipper clutch - It has a "back torque limiter"

[wynw]

[QUOTE=Laava;1130607892]They have a slipper clutch? QUOTE]
...mine certainly didnt! did make you slip n slide a bit if you were a bit hard down the gears tho

[Laava]

[QUOTE=wynw;1130607927]

They have a slipper clutch? QUOTE]
...mine certainly didnt! did make you slip n slide a bit if you were a bit hard down the gears tho

GP styles?

[imdying]

I have an SV1k in the garage. Buy the 600. The SV1000 is a turd. Just don't fucking do it. It's a cheap parts bin piece of junk with sad suspension, a soft engine, and no redeeming features other than the price. Definitely do not buy one to put big miles on, your arse will ask for a divorce. Just don't fucking do it. The 97 ZX6R ran rings around it, 9 years older or not.

[Banditbandit]

First, I'm a CBR man, not a SV man. I've had both a CBR600F4 and a CBR1000RR. But hopefully the engine size thoughts will be comparable.

I think if you've never owned a 1000cc bike you should get the 1000cc, otherwise you'll always be wondering "what if". End of discussion.

I personally prefer the 600cc size for everyday riding and normal fun. It's hard to describe why. I think I would describe it as more fun, because I find it more "care free". I know with the 600cc I can just pin the throttle, and nothing too bad will happen.

A 1000cc needs more respect, and when I'm riding my 1000cc I'm far more conscience of my throttle. I'd never just "pin" it otherwise I'm likely to light up the rear end. I'm more cautious exiting corners and the like.

So like I say, I find the 600cc just more fun.

Couldn't agree more. I rode a litre gixxer and decided it would get me into trouble far too quickly. I prefer lighter weight anyway.

I agree. I have a 650 Bandit for daily transport and a 1250 Bandit for weekends and long distance ... I would say that the 650 is more fun - for much the same reason ... I throw it around a lot more, I push it hard in the corners ... I run it on higher revs in lower speeds ... it is just more fun ...

The 1250 I love as well - but it's a whole different ballgame ... a while ago I turned out of an intersection on a damp road and opened the throttle to accelerate away from an approaching car (100k zone) and fishtailed the backend badly .. I didn't drop it but I had a little blood in my adrenalin stream for a while ... I've had the front end waving in the air as I turned out of a petrol station ... ... On the other hand it really comes into it's own around 180 klicks ... and will just sit there all day ... It's an awesome long-distance bike ...

I wouldn't sell either of them (yet) ... the 650 is just plain fun fun fun .. the 1250 is much more serious ... but as p.darth says - get the thou - or you will always wonder ...

I know top end wise the gsxr 600 will dominate the sv1000, but how about off the mark to 160kph?

Reason I ask is that I did exactly this at the lights vs an R6 and I seemed to have the edge, but I kinda wondered if the R6 was holding back ( as per normal, no corners involved or I'd know he was holding back ( SV horrid suspenders )

I've been all over the back of an SV1000 on my 650 - I have no idea how good or bad the rider was - but running on the road between 180 and 200 klicks I was not impressed by the SV at all ... so a SV1000 is only ever likely to see the tail lights of a 600 gixxer .. and not even for very long ...

[BuzzardNZ]

I have an SV1k in the garage. Buy the 600. The SV1000 is a turd. Just don't fucking do it. It's a cheap parts bin piece of junk with sad suspension, a soft engine, and no redeeming features other than the price. Definitely do not buy one to put big miles on, your arse will ask for a divorce. Just don't fucking do it. The 97 ZX6R ran rings around it, 9 years older or not.

I tend to agree with all of this, especially the seat! almost as bad as the suspension. Build quality is also average.

Redeeming features for me though is that I think it looks great and sounds amazing with 2 brothers pipes on.

Still a regular on http://www.sv-portal.com/ imdying? I would be, but the arseholes banned me from that site.

[Banditbandit]

Redeeming features for me though is that I think it looks great and sounds amazing with 2 brothers pipes on.

Any V-Twin sounds great with the right pipes .. that means fuck all really ... I'd go with imdying and say look elsewhere - While I've never ridden one I've followed the things and read enough comments like his to know I would not have one ..