Research on motorcyclists, pillions, and non-riders

[Oblivion]

"What technology does your current bike have?"

None. Oh wait, Does suspension count? I'm sure I got that.

[nudemetalz]

What year is the Guzzi? You could have proudly put "Magneto ignition" if it's pre...ummm...90s I think isn't it?

errr...2002, so it's got funny fuel injectors but hardly technology.....sheez it's even got a cable speedo drive...

It's got a self cancelling rear light as well as headlight too,..plus a self cancelling engine every nown and then...

[haydes55]

So would ACC encourage new DRZ400E to have ABS as standard?

Should all manner of bikes and all manner of riders be tarred with the same brush? I can't see anyone on an adventure bike just using the road to connect the off road fun bits seriously considering ABS and hi vis etc.

How about a commuter on a gn125 who's never seen 70km/h, all the safety gear needed is a well trained rider and textile jacket/helmet.

I have a way that can increase govt. Revenue and make the roads safer, actually train drivers and riders, stop treating licenses like peoples rights. Get VTNZ to have a training branch and make drivers go through at least 20 hours (just an idea) one on one training. And actual training, like how to navigate a wet bend when you are accidentally going too fast, how to prevent lift off oversteer etc.

How about testing drivers ability to drive more often than how safe vehicles are. What's the ratio of mechanical issues causing crashes, to driver error? License test once then it's yours for life, check a car and presume it's illegal 6 months later. I've seen plenty of crashes and heard of loads of mates crashes. Probably over 20 crashes that I've directly seen or heard from people I know, not a single one wasn't preventable if the driver knew a basic thing about driving or actually focused on driving. None were mechanical failure.

Look at Finland for licensing structure, or Germany. If you so much as fail to indicate within 2 years of getting your license you lose your license and start from scratch and you have to do supervised training. Drivers in their first year of being able to drive alone are over represented in accidents, if they have to start from L plates again if they go 52 in a 50 zone I bet they'll be staying safe and legal. It's simple shit, if the govt actually wanted to reduce the road toll I could take a $100k budget and save more lives with common sense than the past 20 years of stupidity in beuracracy (spl?).

So is this survey about safety? Or is this 'safety' about revenue?

[actungbaby]

My organisation is conducting a multifaceted research project on motorcycle riders across a spectrum of items. We reached out to Simon Gotlieb at Bronz, Mike Dew at Ulysses, and we've had a phenomenal response, but we also want to make sure we are capturing individuals who are not a part of membership organisations as well. This research will help us before we embark on a series of deep-dive qualitative interviews with riders one on one.

I save the money . where all looney tunes with death wish there . study done

lets go get donuts and coffee

[actungbaby]

"What technology does your current bike have?"

None. Oh wait, Does suspension count? I'm sure I got that.

Think am glad moved on from kerosine lamps must made checking fuel tank exciting.

[Road kill]

Don't forget bus'es and trucks which seem to have featured in a large accidents this year - perhaps we can have a survey why trucks feature so often???

I'd be quite happy to share the CVIU with ya' mate.

[Banditbandit]

What is a "left turn enhancer"?

It turns your indicator off for you.

Oh .. I thought it might be some ghey little device on Hondas to ensure your gayness

[Swoop]

It told me that if I spend 50000$ for a Goldwing with abs, traction control, chest airbag and hi-viz, cars won't try to kill me anymore.

But would you then fall into the "Ghey" sector of society? Is there a seperate survey for Ghey motorbicyclists?

[Tigadee]

Who's commissioned this work?
At this time we are not disclosing who has commissioned the project and not to sound like a broken record, but the survey is just one aspect of the project. I can tell you it is funded by more than one agency. When we initially set out to do this work, we very quickly learned that Police, NZTA, MOT, ACC, MSAC, MOH, etc., all caused individuals to change their disposition when they thought they were funding it. Therefore, we decided it would be best to not disclose the agencies as motorcyclists are very passionate and have very strong feelings that could skew the research.

I don't think so... If we're not allowed to know who is commissioning this survey/study and our contact information is being collected, and we have no clue as to the legitimacy of this survey.

I'm not buying it. Sounds more like a psychological profiling exercise, or it's a behavourial study, or just a market research tool for ABS...

[Scuba_Steve]

I'm not buying it. Sounds more like a psychological profiling exercise (yes), or it's a behavourial study (yes), or just a market research tool for ACC...

I think the question "would you expect to see a discount on ACC levies" points it to being ACC or ACC associated.

[caspernz]

What I find amusing is that after a few days away, catch up on this, open the survey link and find they no longer need/want replies!! So is it a case of all you whingers completing several surveys each, or they got fed up with the dumb arze responses haha...and closed it??

[Banditbandit]

or they got fed up with the dumb arze responses haha...and closed it??

Or maybe they decided the survey was flawed and not that useful ?

[The Reibz]

What I find amusing is that after a few days away, catch up on this, open the survey link and find they no longer need/want replies!! So is it a case of all you whingers completing several surveys each, or they got fed up with the dumb arze responses haha...and closed it??

Troll Successful. The best tech in my bike is still the 12 cans of VB I consume every ride on my Shitzuki GEE EES EXX ARRRRRRRGGGG

[Drew]

Or maybe they decided the survey was flawed and not that useful ?

Funny thing, 'hope'.

They've quite possibly removed the responses from the last week, and are trying to collate the info they have from before.

Someone paid for it after all, and I seriously doubt the designers have the balls to admit their fuck up, and return that their findings don't actually mean anything due their own shortfall.

They will blame someone else, (it's the kiwi way after all), and try for another contract on some other topic.

That seems like the most likely outcome. Yet I remain 'hopeful', that I am in less of a majority than I think when it comes to having the sack to own up to my mistakes.

[Conquiztador]

Funny thing, 'hope'.

They've quite possibly removed the responses from the last week, and are trying to collate the info they have from before.

Someone paid for it after all, and I seriously doubt the designers have the balls to admit their fuck up, and return that their findings don't actually mean anything due their own shortfall.

They will blame someone else, (it's the kiwi way after all), and try for another contract on some other topic.

That seems like the most likely outcome. Yet I remain 'hopeful', that I am in less of a majority than I think when it comes to having the sack to own up to my mistakes.

It only becomes a mistake if you do it again. The first time it is considered a learning experience!