Just faidin away!
The event was the "Americas Cup" this sort of shit is part and parcel of it and that is the difference!Originally Posted by Naki Rat
New Zealand still thinks it's about a "sporting event" FFS, it's a rich man's play thing like a game of poker or chess with their own rules for challenging with their dollars!
New Zealanders just keep on trying to play the rich man's game while still trying to apply boy scout interpretations of what it's all about! ... How bazaar!
Comfortably numb
Obviously we got beaten by a bigger bank account. It's just interesting to learn the actual mechanics of the situation.The event was the "Americas Cup" this sort of shit is part and parcel of it and that is the difference!
New Zealand still thinks it's about a "sporting event" FFS, it's a rich man's play thing like a game of poker or chess with their own rules for challenging with their dollars!
New Zealanders just keep on trying to play the rich man's game while still trying to apply boy scout interpretations of what it's all about! ... How bazaar!
Forum whore
i didnt say they were cheating,i was truly baffled as to how they got such a speed change out of the boat...and ffs learn to spellThe event was the "Americas Cup" this sort of shit is part and parcel of it and that is the difference!
New Zealand still thinks it's about a "sporting event" FFS, it's a rich man's play thing like a game of poker or chess with their own rules for challenging with their dollars!
New Zealanders just keep on trying to play the rich man's game while still trying to apply boy scout interpretations of what it's all about! ... How bazaar!
Comfortably numb
Maybe it was intended as a pun inferring that last week's technology is now available to the highest bidder
Forum whore
if so it was lost on this halfwitMaybe it was intended as a pun inferring that last week's technology is now available to the highest bidder
Just faidin away!
Sorry, no pun, just bad spelling! (I actually agree with you)
Listening to Talk back radio while waiting for family in town, very few NZ's have got the slightest inkling about what this cup is about!
I agree about the "interesting" technology and some of the tricks they are able to incorporate to gain an advantage with but it's never really been about fair play and all that, just $$$$$!
If they (NZr's) want fair play etc they should just concentrate on the Olympics!
Personally I thought the whole event was fantastic and even though Oracle had that technical advantage, they only just managed to learn how to use it to their advantage in the nick of time!
ETNZ took a gamble and lost, simple as that, I don't think taxpayers money should have been involved but bet we got more than our money's worth of publicity out of it!
I have to respect their challenge but at the end of the day they failed to achieve their objective ... to win the cup!
Personally, I don't like Mallard but have to accept that he got away with using taxpayers money to gamble with this time but it shouldn't be accepted as standard custom and practice! IMHO.
Forum whore
Maybe he picked that noise up from a couple of late nights in the Castro District... which in turn could also have contributed to the loss.
Bogeyman
Wasn't much of a long shot, every public dollar invested in an Americas cup so far has returned a profit, so why wouldn't you do it again?
I recommend that you ignore the idiots who can't count hollering about how unfair it all is and how the money would be better spent on social welfare.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
Forum whore
i think etnz were the better prepared team.I guess i have been influenced too much from what i have seen in the past..Boat speed is ussually a constant once you get to race three or four.When oracle changed so much i figured teamnz could also make similar tweaks.I was disapointed.
Just faidin away!
Knowing all that we know now about the Americas Cup 2013 and Trevor Mallard came to me and said that I had the authority to decide about the government gambling the money on ETNZ, what would I do?
I have to say it would be ... way go Trev, way to go!Well done Trevor Mallard!
I'ma get medieval on your ass!
As best I can recall John, the NZ government has made grants of $20-30 million for every Americas Cup campaign.Knowing all that we know now about the Americas Cup 2013 and Trevor Mallard came to me and said that I had the authority to decide about the government gambling the money on ETNZ, what would I do?
I have to say it would be ... way go Trev, way to go!
In the past I've been opposed to that because the spending has looked like a sop for Auckland's benefit, plus this is a game for wealthy players. Most of the world including Americans don't know anything about the Americas Cup.
However...this time I think the governments support was well worth it. You have to give Larry Ellison credit, he has raised yacht racing to the level of Formula 1. And Formula 1 racing is only for wealthy teams but hundreds of thousands of people love it - both bikes and cars.
So if these SciFi catamarans are the way of the future then bring it on. The main change should be to reduce the cost - the boats are only 20%.
Forum whore
I have no facts and figures to back this up but the big yawn that is F1 is watched in how many countries? How many people do you think actually watched the Americas Cup, besides a few yanks and little old NZ? Comparing it to F1 seems a bit of stretch to me.
Hardcore Biker
Yeah, this is a good point, however, he has made significant headway in bringing it closer to the F1 of sailing though, so credit where credit is due
Forum whore
exciting to watch for sure..watching them fly round a mark up on the foils of only one hull at 20 knots or whatever sure beats a monohull at 7 or 8
Forum whore
With friends like this, who needs enemies...
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...-helped-Oracle
In each case both teams wanted to pay to use Air NZs equipment. ETNZ was refused, but Oracle was allowed.
it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
(PostalDave on ADVrider)
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