Anarchic Wild Child
The Privy Council is not the whole world - just a bunch of British-derived aristocrats !!!Originally Posted by oldrider
Well the Privy Council don't seem to agree with you on that ... then again they are poms and they get some funny attitudes at times!
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
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Or Petone over the 'takas to the Wairarapa, then over the Pahiatua Track ... Even longer that way @ 194kms one way.
A later time of death would not help the Lundy camp (there was a light seen on at the house around 11pm the night of the murders) but it was not on the next morning. Giving credence to Murrays scenario.
Just faidin away!
What's the state of the Akatarawa road these days, still gravel or is it sealed now, in good condition at night could it be quick?
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Akas is a skinny little sealed road, narrower than most peoples driveways. Lovely bike road, tight corners, few straight bits.What's the state of the Akatarawa road these days, still gravel or is it sealed now, in good condition at night could it be quick?
Not the ideal track for a high speed dash in a large car. At night you'd have the advantage of being able to see other cars lights a long way off so you could use the whole road, but whether that would offset the other disadvantages is doubtful. It nly gets you as far as Waikanae, still got to get to (at least) just before Levin before you could get off the main road. Plenty of opportunity to be observed, especially if going for it.
it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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"channellling the Pleideans"
The Lor Lords are not aristos, they are appointed to the PC because they are the senior judges of the dominions. Robin Cooke (thats Lord Cooke of Thorndon to you, you oik) was a Lor Lord. As I think was Ted Thomas.
I thought elections were decided by angry posts on social media. - F5 Dave
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If the time of death cannot be ascertained then the police will have no case.
You can't just say "he did it, but we don't know when".
The time of death was supposedly determined by the contents of the victims stomachs.
While the pathologist's initial determination may have been wrong, he can't have been wrong by 6 or so hours.
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So many men, so many opinions, some challenge the facts. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11138804
Is NZ a haven for champions of the oppressed?
"channellling the Pleideans"
my honest opinion is that statistically this is a very safe, low crime, and honest country. so journos don't have much to do and they are lazy and often stupid and incompetent. Couple that with a 24 hour news cycle and declining ad revenue, a failing business model and the theory that if it bleeds it leads and you get an over focus on crime, and the rare-ish (one trusts) cases where the po po or the courts fuck something up garner far more attention than they are due.So many men, so many opinions, some challenge the facts. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11138804
Is NZ a haven for champions of the oppressed?
meanwhile actual news goes unreported, as does much actual crime. This is relevant: the stats show* that welfare fraud cost you and I $1BN in any given year. Yoiks you say, thats a lot! And it is. But the same stats also show that tax fraud cost the country $6BN in that year. The best estimate of the prosecution rates for the benny fraudsters was something like 80% but for tax fraud, less than 20.
So the lesson is: be a white collar criminal.
*I am quoting from memory and will try and dredge up the story I read it in.
edit here seems to be the source:
http://sydney.edu.au/law/parsons/ATT...s/Marriott.pdf
By the way I havent read all of the Privy Council's judgment in the Lundy appeal, but what I have read is very interesting. It may cause me to alter my opinion of this matter.
http://media.nzherald.co.nz/webconte...20judgment.pdf
I assume someone already posted that link?
Note that Dame Sian Elias (NZ Chief Justice) was one of the panel.
I thought elections were decided by angry posts on social media. - F5 Dave
Of an enviable height
Why not? It gets rid of the inconvenient, incontrovertible cellphone-record alibis that Mark has.
Ok, ok, I get it. We'll find another time that his alibi doesn't cover, and find some expert to establish that as TOD.
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Have read quite a lot of material about this and while still deep in the dark a few things remain in my mind like if it was not Lundy, what sort of person could it be?
The killer might have been (well) known to Mrs Lundy and the child and very familiar with the layout of the home including Lundy's tool shed.
The house had been rigged to appear as if there had been a break in and Mrs Lundy had not been unduly disturbed or in the process of resistance.
There would have been considerable mess from the killing action and the child appeared to have been retreating from the room as if she had surprised the attacker.
The weapon was never found but paint matching that which Lundy had used to paint his tools was found in the wound areas of the victims.
A jewellery box was the only thing that was apparently missing.
When Lundy could get no response on the phone in the morning he asked her brother to go round and check on them. (about 09.00hrs)
The brother had to break into the house to gain access.
Why would a random burglar/killer who had broken into the house and randomly killed two people leave in an orderly manner and lock and secure the house?
There is even suggestion that the computer clocks had been tampered with to give conflicting evidential information hardly random.
Hardly the panicky actions of a random burglar/killer who was unfamiliar with house and who would obviously be in an highly emotionally excited state of mind!
Just reading the reports available on the net and thinking if it wasn't Lundy, who could it be and how would they behave or think in the circumstances.
Cant find anything about other suspects and their alibis, I hope the police have given that as thorough a work over as they have given Lundy!
I am only commenting on information that is freely available to anyone to read on the internet nothing else!
Ta
World renowned pathologists have said the original time of death could be wrong by over six hours. There's a link to an interview in this thread some place.
I'ma get medieval on your ass!
Agreed John, these matters bother me too.
Christine Lundy was viciously killed by multiple blows including to her face.
That suggests very strong emotions in the attacker and that it was personal.
A burglar who is suprised will lash out and possibly kill but they will leave as quickly as possible in panic.
Anarchic Wild Child
Lord Cooke of Thorndon ??? Certainly looks like an aristo to me (off with his head !!!) I do realise there is a difference between hereditary aristos and appointed/risen aristos ... the difference is only in the number of generations ..
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
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Couldn't care a whit about their background or hobbies, they do see cases with independence and are not tainted with exposure to something that may have been all over the news in another part of the Commonwealth.
Luckily they appear to be on the side of justice and are most happy to send cases back for re-trial.
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L-Plate Rider
we had our own there as well, Dame Sian Elias. NZ Chief Justice
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