Are the NZ police for real?

[Laava]

[husaberg]

When a high ranking police officer claims there's no grounds for an apology then he's sure as fuck sticking the can on the whole force.

You answered it yourself when "A"

Look i have been at parties and seen the whole mob mentality break out i have also seen what i considered excessive force used by the blue boys but like i said a few bad eggs is only to be expected.

I also have a friend who was a Prison Warden for over 10 years and is one of the nicest hardest working people i know.
She said the whole time she worked in the prison system, she never once met someone who actually admitted they were guilty..........
now what's the odds on that?

[jasonu]

Well that guy looks like a faggot and most probable deserved all the cops dished out.

[Tazz]

Well that guy looks like a faggot and most probable deserved all the cops dished out.

Just had to say this is the best post yet considering it is from a dude with a gun pointed at the camera for his avatar

[nzspokes]

Seems to me the problem was a lack of force. If the Police need to resolve a situation like this then they need to hit it with overwhelming force. Party's of this nature are riots of a type so need to be dealt with in the same manor.

Also a displaced fracture of the C7 spinous process is benign to my understanding, which could be wrong as im not a doctor.

[Maha]

The guy derserved it - lots

well played.

[PrincessBandit]

In a mob or riot containment situation it must be pretty difficult to measure force required against restraint to minimise injury. While I hate to use the expression collateral damage it's no surprise that events like this happen. No one deserves a broken neck but the police see to be pretty much screwed whatever actions they take. I have no idea what part the guy with the broken neck played ie whether he was a passive bystander who happened to be in the wrong spot at the time of a baton swing or whether he was right in on the action. Maybe there is a lesson to be learnt about personal choices as to how and where and whom with to party? We all know there are some parties or "celebrations" that are more risky to attend than others...
Only the top cop who decided there was nothing to answer to can justify his reason for this; it is conceivable that he was counselled to do otherwise by other cops, as opposed to a blanket policy of denying culpability. They certainly have taken a tough line on other members of the force who have been found wanting.

[Swoop]

When a high ranking police officer claims there's no grounds for an apology then he's sure as fuck sticking the can on the whole force.

There has been recently (last couple of weeks) a call for a fully independant comissioner who reviews the police and prosecutions/appeals. I think this was in response to the Privy Council rulings recently.

The commentor stated that this was necessary to keep the public's perception AND TRUST of the entire police force.

The "independant" PCA is worthless and nothing more than a quango for the police.

[Zedder]

http://www.3news.co.nz/IPCA-Police-a...1/Default.aspx

Their actions can be determined as excessive and illegal (by their own watchdog) and they don't even have the balls to apologise for it.

My understanding is he only refused to confirm whether police would apologise and the subject would be explored in private with the injured guy. The cops have to consider the "complex issues surrounding this case" as well.

[Banditbandit]

I also have a friend who was a Prison Warden for over 10 years and is one of the nicest hardest working people i know.
She said the whole time she worked in the prison system, she never once met someone who actually admitted they were guilty..........
now what's the odds on that?

Yeah .... the cons all say they didn't do it .... none of the other cons believe them ... the only one I know that the cons believed didn't do it was Arthur Allan Thomas ...

[Asher]

I have been at parties where the cops have shown up, walked in and started smashing people over, young girls included, that's one sure fire way to piss off a lot of drunken people which to a reasonable person would be the last thing you want.

As far as I'm concerned this "few bad eggs" comment is bullshit. As long as the police keep quiet, dismiss blatant claims, have a very bias review authority and keep on protecting each other they are all equally accountable.

[Grubber]

I have been at parties where the cops have shown up, walked in and started smashing people over, young girls included, that's one sure fire way to piss off a lot of drunken people which to a reasonable person would be the last thing you want.

As far as I'm concerned this "few bad eggs" comment is bullshit. As long as the police keep quiet, dismiss blatant claims, have a very bias review authority and keep on protecting each other they are all equally accountable.

Yea this sounds feasible. I would imagine this would how they conduct themselves everyday. Tui!

[Hoon]

Also a displaced fracture of the C7 spinous process is benign to my understanding, which could be wrong as im not a doctor.

Yeah only snapped off a brake lever in the scope of things. People hear "broken neck" and immediately think almost paralyzed when this fracture is considered stable (does not cause any injury to the spinal cord or nerves). Sounds to me like some loud mouth punk just took a good one to the neck.

[Maha]

Yeah only snapped off a brake lever in the scope of things. People hear "broken neck" and immediately think almost paralyzed when this fracture is considered stable (does not cause any injury to the spinal cord or nerves). Sounds to me like some loud mouth punk just took a good one to the neck.

Both he and his lawyer look and sound like drop kicks, they were on TV this morning, both had the most unconvincing argument/statements ever...lawyer has that lizard tounge thing going when not talking and couldn't eyeball the camera when he was talking. This happen in 09 right? Four years later and now he wants to make something of it?

[Katman]

Both he and his lawyer look and sound like drop kicks, they were on TV this morning, both had the most unconvincing argument/statements ever...lawyer has that lizard tounge thing going when not talking and couldn't eyeball the camera when he was talking. This happen in 09 right? Four years later and now he wants to make something of it?

So people who look and sound like drop kicks automatically deserve a beating with a police baton, do they? You must have been a fucking hopeless juror.

(And by the way, the IPCA report was only released yesterday).