Overtaking through heavy traffic

[MD]

So not only did you get a warning and potentially got away with it, you decided to fuck with him and failed the attitude test?

I'd say you got what was coming to you.

Try to keep cool and check your ego next time.

Second that.
Seems like he tried to be nice and wanted you to slip in behind him. Maybe he could see a hazard ahead and thought he would do you a favour and you made him look silly by ignoring him. Don't mess it up for all of us that lane split. Take it on the chin. I've been lane splitting it in Wgtn since 86 and have only been ticketed once (late 80s), and that was for using the motorway shoulder.

If I see a cop car ahead I tend to quietly slip back into the faster moving lane until I get a few cars ahead of the cop, then split a car or two at a time only, so not to draw too much attention. Make it more like a drawn out lane change!

[Hoon]

I am seeking someone who can quote some police statement that their official line is to tolerate safe lane splitting on the grounds that it smooths traffic flow.

There is no such statement. Even if there were the law still trumps it. Lane splitting will never be legal nor will it ever be endorsed due to accountability reasons.

Like I said before, lane-splitting isn't a right, it's a privilege. Don't fuck it up for the rest of us.

[Dangsta]

My ticket was three weeks before the accident, so that was not a factor. I think I know the bike that got hit - one of the idiots who weaves and speeds. I agree, tough, but it serves him right. But that is not what I was doing.

OK - so attitude (i.e. no deference to an officious official) was the problem - but there is still the police tolerance policy - what is it? Can anyone produce a reference to it? I have tracked down a report which refers to the Auckland policy and I have asked for more information - I'll let you know if that yields fruit.

Shit.....a biker gets hit and badly injured and you say its what he deserved because he's an idiot. You admit to lane splitting, ignoring the cop that gave you a "friendly" wave down and then shaking your head at him as you split lanes and undertake him. Then, rather than take the hit like a good Kiwi, you decide to fight the ticket. Then...rather than do the research yourself, you ask the KB forum to do the work for you. Mate, not only are you also an idiot...you're on the verge of going "full retard". Just sayin...

[Oggywh3]

Shit.....a biker gets hit and badly injured and you say its what he deserved because he's an idiot. You admit to lane splitting, ignoring the cop that gave you a "friendly" wave down and then shaking your head at him as you split lanes and undertake him. Then, rather than take the hit like a good Kiwi, you decide to fight the ticket. Then...rather than do the research yourself, you ask the KB forum to do the work for you. Mate, not only are you also an idiot...you're on the verge of going "full retard". Just sayin...

OK - some facts so you can get off your high horse - one: there are idiots out there who lane split and give us all a bad name. Real idiots. Accidents waiting to happen. I am not one of them. If it was the guy I'm thinking of, it was only a matter of time. Two: it was not a friendly wave, it was a peremptory signal that could be seen as "I'm turning right" i.e. arm straight out, so get in behind. Three: there was no situation ahead. Four: I legally overtook him, on the right, signalling appropriately. Five: yes, I shook my head at him as he seems unaware of police policy. Six: he has done it before but more arrogantly, opening his door when stopped to stop bikers legally moving down the centre in stopped traffic. Seven: I have been doing the research and have found a statement - I just have to find out who in the police made it and when. Any help with this, from anyone, would be appreciated. Then I can share it with all of you guys. Dangsta - just don't bother reading it, and please, this is a forum for discussion. Name calling might satisfy your urges but it isn't very constructive.

[Swoop]

I don't understand why this is such a big issue in this country. In place's where there over 70million people living there it's the reason people riding motorcycle to commute to work to save the hour plus journey. It's also far better for congestion!

It's pretty uncomfortable sitting on an air-cooled bike with a finned cylinder head on a roasting hot day in stationary traffic!

That is why we live in a 3rd world Banana Republic. Intelligent decision making is non-existant.

[Daffyd]

That is why we live in a 3rd world Banana Republic. Intelligent decision making is non-existant.

Third world? I've been living in the Philippines now for 18 months, and lane splitting is an art form. Pass on the left, (remember we drive on the right hand side of the road here), pass on the right, cross the centre line even if there's someone coming the other way. (It's ok, he'll move over for me). Pass on the footpath/sidewalk, if there is one, otherwise the verge will do. Trouble is there are deep holes here. Now I find myself doing the same thing, but a few days ago when I was doing this I met another rider COMING TOWARDS ME! NO safety gear, except a few helmets, (compulsory, but not everyone uses them). Strangely enough, the only accidents reported on TV are fatal and ALL the riders involved were wearing helmets.

[NC]

You stopped, next time make him follow you home. Then invite him in for a nice cuppa and a yarn, they love that.

Or a handshandy. They like those better

[cheshirecat]

When i was DRing in London it was expected bikes lane split, taking up car spaces were hated. One guy i knew was told off by the police for not lane splitting. Incidentally I did police motorcycle course there way back in my youth and crossing the yellow line meant not letting the center line of your tyre's touch the yellow bit. Millimeter precision at speed with a cop on your taillight to make sure. The best and only motorcycle course I've ever done. Two motorcycle cops, front and rear - 5 riders and fast 70 mph country lanes.

[Dangsta]

OK - some facts so you can get off your high horse - one: there are idiots out there who lane split and give us all a bad name. Real idiots. Accidents waiting to happen. I am not one of them. If it was the guy I'm thinking of, it was only a matter of time. Two: it was not a friendly wave, it was a peremptory signal that could be seen as "I'm turning right" i.e. arm straight out, so get in behind. Three: there was no situation ahead. Four: I legally overtook him, on the right, signalling appropriately. Five: yes, I shook my head at him as he seems unaware of police policy. Six: he has done it before but more arrogantly, opening his door when stopped to stop bikers legally moving down the centre in stopped traffic. Seven: I have been doing the research and have found a statement - I just have to find out who in the police made it and when. Any help with this, from anyone, would be appreciated. Then I can share it with all of you guys. Dangsta - just don't bother reading it, and please, this is a forum for discussion. Name calling might satisfy your urges but it isn't very constructive.

Well you were on the verge...congrats, you made it..

[Bonzo]

[swbarnett]

OK - some facts so you can get off your high horse - one: there are idiots out there who lane split and give us all a bad name. Real idiots. Accidents waiting to happen.

In other words - "Anyone slower than you is a wimp and anyone faster than you is an idiot".

Be careful who you label an idiot. You don't know these riders and you sure as hell don't know their riding ability and level of awareness in traffic. A lot of car drivers think we're idiots just for riding a motorcycle at any speed. Please don't give them ammo by making this more public than it needs to be. FFS, you broke the law and got done for it. No police "policy" takes precedence over the law. If you have to take this cop to task, go after him for his dangerous manoeuvre in stopped traffic when you're actually riding legally.

[Bonzo]

Here's another good discussion regarding lane splitting.

[Clockwork]

OK - some facts so you can get off your high horse -....: it was not a friendly wave, it was a peremptory signal that could be seen as "I'm turning right" i.e. arm straight out.......: I legally overtook him, on the right,.....

Ahhh there's your problem, you see because he'd signaled a right turn you were allowed to (and should have) passed him on the left.

[Bald Eagle]

Nah, don't worry MOTO NZ will surely have it on their agenda to sort out for us.

That be $30 well spent then rotflmao

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[russd7]

Third world? I've been living in the Philippines now for 18 months,

so ya three month holiday worked out then
was wondering why i hadn't seen ya round the rally scene