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    No, not really.
    Your post had the kernel of one idea and then took off onto an hysterical anti-establishment rant that served no purpose other than to either make you feel good or to sidetrack a thread that is putting together some constructive ideas for the future.
    You pointed out why you don't turn up. Choice. Stay there on the sidelines and complain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveyb View Post
    No, not really.
    Your post had the kernel of one idea and then took off onto an hysterical anti-establishment rant that served no purpose other than to either make you feel good or to sidetrack a thread that is putting together some constructive ideas for the future.
    You pointed out why you don't turn up. Choice. Stay there on the sidelines and complain.
    Bingo,You win the chocolate fish,Clearly has no idea who or what is MNZ or that there are only 4 paid staff(Actually 3 at the mo),All the rest of us donate hundreds of hours a year to run the sport,Just so we can be told how greedy and useless we are,I love it.


    Now back on track if we can!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 300weatherby View Post
    Oh, and you could do something about reducing the costs MNZ load onto the competitors too, funny how just like most other sports, the administration manages to make it all about them, as the administation gets comfortable sitting in ivory castles.........









    IVORY CASTLES ..... in Huntly ???? You have obviously never been there and seen the work the Ladies put through in a pretty ordinary converted house in the big Metropolis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 300weatherby View Post
    Then bloody well unlump them.

    You can add extra days and races, then you can seperate existing classes. I know a bunch of guys would jump straight in if that were the case, including me. Can't be fucked with the Nationals for exactly this reason, the cost and agravation involved are not mitigated by opportunity.

    One hook never considered to help increase grid numbers is changing the national standings to match the point score system, instead of a number one through ten ranking, have a one through fifteen ranking, given points are scored down to fifteenth place........ I'd be inclined to come back myself if that were the case despite classes lumped together.(refering to 600's being only one class)

    There you go, help yourself to a constructive possibility instead of all the myopic navel gazing, covering the same ground over and over.

    Oh, and you could do something about reducing the costs MNZ load onto the competitors too, funny how just like most other sports, the administration manages to make it all about them, as the administation gets comfortable sitting in ivory castles.........

    On the subject of cost, just how hard would it be to have a "control tyre"? and sort a national level buy for everyone to significantly reduce tyre cost- the tyre manufacturors competing for the right to supply would be rather appealing (just leave Continental out though!). Only some people have tyre deals and can run around on good rubber, so sort one deal for all








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    Quote Originally Posted by 300weatherby View Post
    On the subject of cost, just how hard would it be to have a "control tyre"? and sort a national level buy for everyone to significantly reduce tyre cost- the tyre manufacturors competing for the right to supply would be rather appealing (just leave Continental out though!). Only some people have tyre deals and can run around on good rubber, so sort one deal for all
    You ARE taking the piss, right ? The ONLY person who gains is the middle-man, screws the Supplier AND the Competitors - and when the contracted supply is getting low towards the end of the season, and you've chewed through YOUR allocation, will you whinge when you cant access more ?

    The REALITY is, at Contracted rates at probably SFA margin, the "Chosen" Supplier will only have the contracted amount in Country ...... and because there is no market, the other Brands will have virtually nil stock on the shelf. And they ALL have lead times for orders in MONTHS, flying in supplies from another market IS an option, but BOY, will you be paying then !!!!!!!!!! Get Real

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy View Post
    Bingo,You win the chocolate fish,Clearly has no idea who or what is MNZ or that there are only 4 paid staff(Actually 3 at the mo),All the rest of us donate hundreds of hours a year to run the sport,Just so we can be told how greedy and useless we are,I love it.


    Now back on track if we can!!!
    Very fair points Billy. There are some things we disagree on but that doesn't take away from the fact you are spending a lot of your own time with little or no recompense to pretty much do a great job. Ditto for all of the volunteers in the background who in many cases get very much taken for granted. To have a bit of a dig about that a 4 day meeting is very much going to test their resolve!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by budda View Post
    IVORY CASTLES ..... in Huntly ???? You have obviously never been there and seen the work the Ladies put through in a pretty ordinary converted house in the big Metropolis.
    Don't dis Huntly, that's my home town !

    Out of curiosity - anyone know how it came to be the HQ ? (Apart from the obvious attractions of the coal mines and brickworks)
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    Quote Originally Posted by wharfy View Post
    Don't dis Huntly, that's my home town !

    Out of curiosity - anyone know how it came to be the HQ ? (Apart from the obvious attractions of the coal mines and brickworks)
    I always assumed it was donated by someone. One mustn't forget that dirt riders make up the majority of members. So the region of head office might originally have been close to home for many of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wharfy View Post
    Don't dis Huntly, that's my home town !

    Out of curiosity - anyone know how it came to be the HQ ? (Apart from the obvious attractions of the coal mines and brickworks)
    That's exactly my point !!!!! Would YOU describe the Office as palatial, or indeed even "upmarket" ?
    The Ladies could be doing exactly the same work from an office in the Sky City tower or the apartment at Hampton Downs that was seriously considered for a time ........
    ......... THEN you'd have something to bitch about !!!!!!

    There was a pretty simple reason behind the purchase in downtown Huntly as I understand it, but I'll leave that for someone in a position to speak on behalf of the Organisation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wharfy View Post
    Don't dis Huntly, that's my home town !

    Out of curiosity - anyone know how it came to be the HQ ? (Apart from the obvious attractions of the coal mines and brickworks)
    Well that explains everything haha

    I would assume that as Sandra Perry lives there and she singlehandedly ran MNZ and the speedway control board for many years back through the 70s and until it changed from ACU to MNZ,Whomever was involved at the time decided to buy something easy for her to access,Thats just a guess mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    Very fair points Billy. There are some things we disagree on but that doesn't take away from the fact you are spending a lot of your own time with little or no recompense to pretty much do a great job. Ditto for all of the volunteers in the background who in many cases get very much taken for granted. To have a bit of a dig about that a 4 day meeting is very much going to test their resolve!!
    Yes it will indeed,It was my ONLY concern moving forward with the round,Nigel is confident he has it under control and I have a plan B should he begin to struggle,Lets try and be a bit more positive about the idea,Instead of looking at it like a half empty glass.

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    Roberts glass is always half empty, 'cos he has drunk the rest......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy View Post
    Instead of looking at it like a half empty glass.
    be careful as if the glass is half empty then according to another thread you're possibly incapable of racing and may be tested!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    be careful as if the glass is half empty then according to another thread you're possibly incapable of racing and may be tested!!!
    Only emptying it so he can look through the bottom - Mr Magoo rides again .......

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    Quote Originally Posted by budda View Post
    Only emptying it so he can look through the bottom - Mr Magoo rides again .......
    Hahahahaha,Atleast I can still ride Mr round,Well more like waddle blindly around,I still haven't stopped laughing at you saying youve got a point a few posts ago.......Where would that be? Ive only seen the ROUND in you LOL,Take that mainlander....I feel a Tshirt coming on.

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