Drug testing?

[SMOKEU]

I reckon we should see what it's like to do a track attack high on P, and then compare lap times vs sober.

[haydes55]

There is already random breath testing. We pull out a few scrutineering cards at random from each class. 0.01 is enough to not be riding.

If we don't test for any THC then people can race high.

[Madness]

If we don't test for any THC then people can race high.

You're a bit slow eh?

Testing for the presence of THC is not the same as testing for being high.

I tried P once. Rode a ZZR1100 from Auckland to Wellington on a beautiful autumn day. It was fucking epic.

[wharfy]

Hmm... I doubt any racers are likely to get "high" before a race or have a couple of gins for breakfast, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone rocked up impaired from the night before. Some bikers like to party hard !
I would have no problem with breath testing - other drugs ? I dunno probably in the "too hard" basket.
I take some prescription medication, none of which is supposed to affect driving, I don't take the diuretic when I'm racing 'cause having to stop for a piss would do nothing to improve my miserable lap times. I think one affects short term memory but I can't remember which one.

[haydes55]

You're a bit slow eh?

Testing for the presence of THC is not the same as testing for being high.

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you're a bit slow eh?


That's what I'm saying. There is no test for being actually high. The closest test we have is to test for THC.

We could do a swab for THC and a urine sample for all other drugs. Double the cost and then it looks like an official body is condoning recreational use in their competitors. Great look for an industry which is already under media scrutiny.

When a serious injury happens, the police do tests and ask questions. If SNZ can't answer, SNZ can face fines that would near bankrupt the entire organisation.

[CHOPPA]

Whats SNZ?

[Kickaha]

Whats SNZ?

Speedway NZ

[jellywrestler]

I thought the scrutineering process would pick up loose bolts,

The scrutineers do not use tools to check tightness of items
besides bikes are usualy scrutinneered at the start of a meeting, from then the wheels can be changed a number of times..........

[jellywrestler]

I do really like the idea Akzle has about splitting the riders up into groups of wasted/not wasted. That would be interesting!

they could do races like at the moto gp in aussie, 10 laps then in cause they'd have the munchies, then back for another 10 laps????

[jellywrestler]

I believe in the death penalty for sellers of hard drugs.

Death by Bongo...

[Madness]

you're a bit slow eh?


That's what I'm saying. There is no test for being actually high. The closest test we have is to test for THC.

We could do a swab for THC and a urine sample for all other drugs. Double the cost and then it looks like an official body is condoning recreational use in their competitors. Great look for an industry which is already under media scrutiny.

When a serious injury happens, the police do tests and ask questions. If SNZ can't answer, SNZ can face fines that would near bankrupt the entire organisation.

Your post is confusing, probably because you're a bit slow.

Why should the governing body of a minority sport spend money it probably doesn't have to pay for tests that fail to conclusively reduce any perceived risk through cannabis use. Instead, as you're suggesting, the sole benefit of such testing would be window dressing in the eyes of the media.

Anyhoo, who the fuck wants to be involved in an amateur sport where the governing body wants to know what it's participants got up to five weeks ago in the privacy of their own home? If sports in this country are being managed by people of such a mindset I think it's a sad day indeed.

[haydes55]

If the only argument against drug testing is "but I want to smoke weed" then drug testing obviously needs to be implemented more.

[Madness]

If the only argument against drug testing is "but I want to smoke weed" then drug testing obviously needs to be implemented more.

By the same failed logic you should also look to implement a test to find people who have been pissed at any stage in the five weeks prior to a race. Only fair, innit?

[haydes55]

The effects of alcohol last until alcohol is no longer present in your system. If you get mega drunk Friday, you may fail on Sunday. The effects of Crack last until crack is out of your system. Get wasted on Friday, still fail on Sunday.

The effects of THC slow down your brain whilst it is in your system. 5 weeks in your system is probably an overkill for anyone over 40kg.

I used to smoke weed a bit. I know several days after having a session I would still occasionally slur words, stutter and have concentration lapses.

I know weed effects every one differently. Just like the speed limit, the rules are for everyone including the people who are actually getting stone on race day and the scrawny girl who is effected for weeks. Yes it may be tough on the people who can handle it. But it would be unfair to people if we were to say, "yea you can race, you're a big guy who can handle your weed" then say "sorry you're just too skinny, you could still be intoxicated".

One rule for all, a limit would mean endorsing drug use.

[tail_end_charlie]

If the only argument against drug testing is "but I want to smoke weed" then drug testing obviously needs to be implemented more.

Agreed!

By the same failed logic you should also look to implement a test to find people who have been pissed at any stage in the five weeks prior to a race. Only fair, innit?

Not really, considering the last time I checked weed is illegal (if you are tested at any point and cannabis is present, you're out!) where as alcohol is illegal only above a certain limit.

If you want weed treated the same as alcohol then get the government to change the laws, it's a fucking democratic process so if you really cared you could make it happen. Otherwise, if you test positive for THC, your out, deal with it bitch.