Drug testing?

[nzspokes]

If the only argument against drug testing is "but I want to smoke weed" then drug testing obviously needs to be implemented more.

While back at a place I worked, bosses said we had drug testing starting the next week at random on a Friday. 3 guys never showed up again.

We never did the testing. Worked a treat.

And those that think a little weed does no harm have not seen the long term effects. I have a family member that has been severely effected just from weed. Sad really. Booze does damage to. Shame really.

[Akzle]

the enlightened good democratic laws also state that travelling over 100km an hour is dangerous.
Maybe that arbitrary limit should be applied to participants as well, y'know. For safety...

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

The presence of THC in one's system does not necessarily indicate impairment.

Erm that would depend on when it was taken and how much was taken, Ive seen some pretty 'impaired' indirviduals that have THC in their system

correct, it remains in the system for weeks

90 days approx

Your post is confusing, probably because you're a bit slow.

Why should the governing body of a minority sport spend money it probably doesn't have to pay for tests that fail to conclusively reduce any perceived risk through cannabis use. Instead, as you're suggesting, the sole benefit of such testing would be window dressing in the eyes of the media.

Anyhoo, who the fuck wants to be involved in an amateur sport where the governing body wants to know what it's participants got up to five weeks ago in the privacy of their own home? If sports in this country are being managed by people of such a mindset I think it's a sad day indeed.

Why would anyone want to line up on the grid with a fellow competitor who is under the influence of anything that could impair their ability I dont care what it is they have taken or when I just dont want it outbraking itself into me thanks.

Take the bloody drugs if you want, just dont go racing as well its your choice what you do. Just dont involve me please, I've got a whole family I need to get back to at the end of the meeting.
KG

[jellywrestler]

so what about legal highs????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????

[Katman]

Erm that would depend on when it was taken and how much was taken, Ive seen some pretty 'impaired' indirviduals that have THC in their system

Hence the word 'necessarily' in my post Graham.

[nzspokes]

Take the bloody drugs if you want, just dont go racing as well its your choice what you do. Just dont involve me please, I've got a whole family I need to get back to at the end of the meeting.
KG

And thats the answer to the whole thread. Same goes for all situations where you put others at risk for your little "high". Even more so for the workplace where you can hurt or kill others.

[Madness]

The effects of THC slow down your brain whilst it is in your system. 5 weeks in your system is probably an overkill for anyone over 40kg.

I used to smoke weed a bit. I know several days after having a session I would still occasionally slur words, stutter and have concentration lapses.

So Cannabis smoking left you with slurred speech for a couple of days after consumption yet you're happy to implement testing that can pick up residual THC weeks and weeks after the event, when you concede there is unlikely to be any effects present. Witch hunt.

Not really, considering the last time I checked weed is illegal (if you are tested at any point and cannabis is present, you're out!) where as alcohol is illegal only above a certain limit.

If you want weed treated the same as alcohol then get the government to change the laws, it's a fucking democratic process so if you really cared you could make it happen. Otherwise, if you test positive for THC, your out, deal with it bitch.

There are efforts being made in this area already. Actually, fuck responding to your pathetic post, I just read your disclaimer. As you were, bitch.

And those that think a little weed does no harm have not seen the long term effects. I have a family member that has been severely effected just from weed. Sad really. Booze does damage to. Shame really.

Ever think that maybe your relative just shared the same genes as yourself & is simply a little retarded?

Take the bloody drugs if you want, just dont go racing as well its your choice what you do. Just dont involve me please, I've got a whole family I need to get back to at the end of the meeting.
KG

Cool, I will & I won't. In fact, why the fuck would I even want to spectate at an event that the organisers are spending my ticket money on draconian measures at an attempt to window-dress a situation for the media whilst persecuting people for doing something that has no effect on the racing itself?

When did amateur sports organisations become the enforcers of our laws & upholders of morals? Until such time as testing for actual "impairment" from Cannabis use replaces what is currently being discussed, that's in effect all you're doing.

Muppets.

[wharfy]

cool, i will & i won't. In fact, why the fuck would i even want to spectate at an event that the organisers are spending my ticket money on draconian measures at an attempt to window-dress a situation for the media whilst persecuting people for doing something that has no effect on the racing itself?

When did amateur sports organisations become the enforcers of our laws & upholders of morals? Until such time as testing for actual "impairment" from cannabis use replaces what is currently being discussed, that's in effect all you're doing.

Muppets.

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Ok

[SMOKEU]

I used to smoke weed a bit. I know several days after having a session I would still occasionally slur words, stutter and have concentration lapses.

That's never happened to me. I feel no different if I don't smoke for a week, or if I smoked heavily the night before.

Not really, considering the last time I checked weed is illegal (if you are tested at any point and cannabis is present, you're out!) where as alcohol is illegal only above a certain limit.

If you want weed treated the same as alcohol then get the government to change the laws, it's a fucking democratic process so if you really cared you could make it happen. Otherwise, if you test positive for THC, your out, deal with it bitch.

Ask any reputable medical doctor about what is worse for the body; alcohol or cannabis. It doesn't take a genius to figure out which causes the most harm. When was the last time you saw someone get high off pot and then try to start a scrap or vandalize property (assuming the person is not under the influence of any other substances)?

Just dont involve me please, I've got a whole family I need to get back to at the end of the meeting.

If you're that worried about your safety, then why are you racing a motorcycle in the first place? Take up knitting or gardening instead.

so what about legal highs????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????

That's an excellent point! Many of these synthetic cannabis products are far more potent than the real thing, and the effects can be both scary and unpredictable.

And those that think a little weed does no harm have not seen the long term effects. I have a family member that has been severely effected just from weed. Sad really. Booze does damage to. Shame really.

Correlation does not equal causation. I'm sure there are plenty of mental health patients that eat KFC and drink Pepsi, but does that mean that those things cause mental health issues?

[onearmedbandit]

I used to smoke weed a bit. I know several days after having a session I would still occasionally slur words, stutter and have concentration lapses.

Really? I think there were other issues going on, as in all my years of smoking, and sharing those years with many many friends I've never once struck someone suffering from slurred words or stuttering solely from smoking weed. But that's an entirely different thread.

[insomnia01]

drinking OR smoking in moderation does not mean you have to get off your face to enjoy whatever high your on surely !!

[Bassmatt]

When are they starting the " I was up all last night night and haven't been to bed" tests and the "Have had a fight with the missus and I'm really pissed off" tests etc etc?

[haydes55]

So Cannabis smoking left you with slurred speech for a couple of days after consumption yet you're happy to implement testing that can pick up residual THC weeks and weeks after the event, when you concede there is unlikely to be any effects present. Witch hunt.

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My point is, everyone is different, every bud is different, everyone's tolerances are different.

Am I effected by weed after 48 hours after a session? Yes.

Are you effected by weed 48 hours after a session? Maybe not.

Is Joe Blogs effected by weed 3 weeks after he smoked an ounce in a night? We can't test his level of impairment, and he will lie and say he is fine if he isn't. Our only option is to test his urine for traces of THC.

I know people who can't have an energy drink because they get the shakes and hyperactive, yet I can drink 2L of V in an hour and feel no energy boost.

Fact of the matter is there are people who will be at greater risk to themselves and others, even after several days/weeks sobriety.

Urine testing covers all bases, tests for all drugs and can be tested further.

All drugs are illegal substances, all illegal substances are banned in the rule book, officials have to enforce the rule book.

[Katman]

All drugs are illegal substances, all illegal substances are banned in the rule book, officials have to enforce the rule book.

As has already been asked - what about legal highs?

[haydes55]

Legal highs were banned weren't they?

I'd presume they will display a "not negative" result in the wees. I'm not sure though, 2 ways to find out, ask someone who knows, or give it a crack.