Is there no F3 currently at Nats?

[Robert Taylor]

very wrong dude, LATER and Harder and off them sooner

And there was also a disparity in corner speed.

[budda]

And there was also a disparity in corner speed.

NOW you're just being naughty ........

[Shaun Harris]

And there was also a disparity in corner speed.

I noticed that with some one else in a different class, his forks looked like Crap!

[budda]

I noticed that with some one else in a different class, his forks looked like Crap!

and now YOU'RE being naughty ........

[Shaun Harris]

and now YOU'RE being naughty ........

only tell the truth and speak my mind, and Robert knows the product and forks and rider I am talking about, not into naming names no need to go down that path.

[budda]

only tell the truth and speak my mind, and Robert knows the product and forks and rider I am talking about, not into naming names no need to go down that path.

Agreed ....... lookin forward to seeing you on the mighty minge-ah !!!!!!!!!

[Shaun Harris]

Agreed ....... lookin forward to seeing you on the mighty minge-ah !!!!!!!!!

Cheers, will be cool and lots of fun, I guess he must have told you then? Im not saying anything untill it is all 100%

[budda]

Cheers, will be cool and lots of fun, I guess he must have told you then? Im not saying anything untill it is all 100%

There are those perpetuating the blatant untruth that 2fiddys is a "nursery" or "learners" class .....
nothing could be further from the truth !!!!!!!!!!!!!! You will L O V E it !!!!!!!!!!!

[Shaun Harris]

There are those perpetuating the blatant untruth that 2fiddys is a "nursery" or "learners" class .....
nothing could be further from the truth !!!!!!!!!!!!!! You will L O V E it !!!!!!!!!!!

I can see the fast boys are VERY bloody fast on them, it will be hard to take an arse kicking from them, but hey, what the hell.

[budda]

I can see the fast boys are VERY bloody fast on them, it will be hard to take an arse kicking from them, but hey, what the hell.

At least you're a bit closer to the racing whitebaits body mass, unlike the 90kg+ Masters Class.
I'd love to see a minimum combined bike and rider weight, but getting a full-sized pack full of lead ingots on over their leathers might be a bit of a struggle for some of the young 'uns - easier to take a Pillion !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[codgyoleracer]

For those with identity crises yes!

What I am failing to understand is how the winning commuter bike on its way through the 125 field ( that started before it ) was able to outbrake ALL 125s from the tail end through to the pointy end of the field. A 125 GP bike should pretty much be able to outbrake everything.

Sure that commuter bike has got Ohlins road and track forks on it ( that are not race spec forks by any means) but its still a heavy old commuter bike with lack of front end weight loading compared to a true racebike.

I tend to agree, but then i am observing from afar

[Robert Taylor]

I tend to agree, but then i am observing from afar

I think its a totally fair thing to ask and then address in a workmanlike manner. I.e why did it appear that the braking speed and corner speed of most of the 125s has raised questions? This has only come about as a ''reality check'' given the way a top level national Superbike rider on a well developed commuter bike caught and sithed his way through the 125 field.... This is not to create trouble, it is a brutally honest observation.

[Robert Taylor]

I noticed that with some one else in a different class, his forks looked like Crap!

Yes I know the cure for it.

But given that Im single handedly looking after 6 top level Superbikes there is no time available to effect that cure.

[JayRacer37]

I think its a totally fair thing to ask and then address in a workmanlike manner. I.e why did it appear that the braking speed and corner speed of most of the 125s has raised questions? This has only come about as a ''reality check'' given the way a top level national Superbike rider on a well developed commuter bike caught and sithed his way through the 125 field.... This is not to create trouble, it is a brutally honest observation.

It seemed that was the case when I was racing 125's. I can remember Midge and I having our arses kicked at Teretonga in the Southern Spirit of Speed race by Terry, Gimpy et al on good F3 bikes - one of them the very bike in question here. In fact to beat them you needed a 250GP bike which I did the next year

[codgyoleracer]

It seemed that was the case when I was racing 125's. I can remember Midge and I having our arses kicked at Teretonga in the Southern Spirit of Speed race by Terry, Gimpy et al on good F3 bikes - one of them the very bike in question here. In fact to beat them you needed a 250GP bike which I did the next year

I agree, - a similar spec 125 against a similar spec F3 bike, with good rider, RESULT F3 bike a little bit quicker (as per the lap records mostly suggest), not by much though, espeicially at the tighter tracks like Levels aye Jay.