Stupid World

[Brian d marge]

Once apon a time bread went from 4 to 8 to fifteen sous a loaf a time when a skilled worker got 15 sou a day

The shit hit the fan that day

We have a while yet before the food bill is in excess of 40　percent of income



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[BoristheBiter]

Why? Do you always require someone richer than yourself to tell you what to do?

... That would explain alot

Nah mate, not many richer than me.

Wot e said... cannot blingeth theee twice

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa what a sheep, can't think of your own funny come back.

[mashman]

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa what a sheep, can't think of your own funny come back.

Sometimes it is wiser to cede to a wiser man... and as flattered as I am that you chose to roll out my sheep line, I'm disappointed in the context you chose.

[mashman]

Kiwis fighting in Syria, Key confirms...

"It backs up, 100 per cent, what I said last year about the need for intelligence-gathering," he said.

You aren't allowed to fight in an unapproved war... so much for freedom of choice and to fight for the cause of your choosing. Am sure Kiwi's will feel much safer with these guys wandering the streets with no passport.

[Scuba_Steve]

Nah mate, not many richer than me.

I guess congratulations then, but I don't actually recall many NZers on the Forbes top 100 anytime recently. I guess it could always just be that you're not a NZer maybee...

[BoristheBiter]

Sometimes it is wiser to cede to a wiser man... and as flattered as I am that you chose to roll out my sheep line, I'm disappointed in the context you chose.

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[BoristheBiter]

I guess congratulations then, but I don't actually recall many NZers on the Forbes top 100 anytime recently. I guess it could always just be that you're not a NZer maybee...

If you are not a public listed company, nor a media whore forbes have no idea who you are
And yes there is that fact (only on paper for safety reasons) but I'm taking the mashy line, you don't need to have money to be rich.

[Oscar]

Kiwis fighting in Syria, Key confirms...

"It backs up, 100 per cent, what I said last year about the need for intelligence-gathering," he said.

You aren't allowed to fight in an unapproved war... so much for freedom of choice and to fight for the cause of your choosing. Am sure Kiwi's will feel much safer with these guys wandering the streets with no passport.

Maybe you'd prefer to wait for their return from Syria, radicalised and trained.

[mashman]

Maybe you'd prefer to wait for their return from Syria, radicalised and trained.

Who says they aren't already?

[Oscar]

Who says they aren't already?

Who says they're not?
What diference does it make?

Do we want our citizens fighting for AQ in Syria?
Or do they have to prove that they're fighting for the "good" guys?

Aren’t you exactly the sort of whiner who complain long and loud if the Govt allowed radical, trained terrorists back into NZ after fighting in Syria?

[mashman]

Who says they're not?
What diference does it make?

Do we want our citizens fighting for AQ in Syria?
Or do they have to prove that they're fighting for the "good" guys?

Aren’t you exactly the sort of whiner who complain long and loud if the Govt allowed radical, trained terrorists back into NZ after fighting in Syria?

True, I guess we'll never be told.
I would assume killing accuracy and efficiency might be considerations.

I have no problem with anyone wanting to fight where they want to fight. If they class the Syrian regime as oppressive to the people, then where's the difference between signing up to fight v's being a part of a "lawful" (tui) army?
Who gets to decide who the "good" guys are?

... If they decide to fight here, they decide to fight here irrespective of the govt's wishes... and no doubt there are many more lethal people, everyday bikers, on here that are trained highly enough that could be considered as "terrorists". It's a personal choice, let them go fight.

[Oscar]

I have no problem with anyone wanting to fight where they want to fight. If they class the Syrian regime as oppressive to the people, then where's the difference between signing up to fight v's being a part of a "lawful" (tui) army?
Who gets to decide who the "good" guys are?

... If they decide to fight here, they decide to fight here irrespective of the govt's wishes... and no doubt there are many more lethal people, everyday bikers, on here that are trained highly enough that could be considered as "terrorists". It's a personal choice, let them go fight.

And that’s where your naivety (not to mention ignorance) becomes obvious.
The Syrian opposition is a diverse group ranging from secular to hard core AQ and Hamas. None of these groups are squeaky clean (an example being the you tube clip of an Opposition Commander eating the heart of a dead soldier).
If the fundamentalists are victorious, life in Syria is going to get worse, not better.


However, as you say, it is a personal choice - but if you make the choice, maybe you've also made a choice about citizenship.
If you want to fight for another country, rescind your rights in this one.

[Ocean1]

True, I guess we'll never be told.
I would assume killing accuracy and efficiency might be considerations.

I have no problem with anyone wanting to fight where they want to fight. If they class the Syrian regime as oppressive to the people, then where's the difference between signing up to fight v's being a part of a "lawful" (tui) army?
Who gets to decide who the "good" guys are?

... If they decide to fight here, they decide to fight here irrespective of the govt's wishes... and no doubt there are many more lethal people, everyday bikers, on here that are trained highly enough that could be considered as "terrorists". It's a personal choice, let them go fight.

Believe it or not there's rules in war too. Google "Jus in Bello"

They define allowable actions, wepons, treatment of prisoners etc etc. Anyone entering into armed conflict not covered by these rules is what used to be somewhat quaintly called pirate. Which might sound romantic an' all, until you go look how long most pirates remained alive long enough to enjoy the whatever benefits their actions may have gained them.

[mashman]

And that’s where your naivety (not to mention ignorance) becomes obvious.
The Syrian opposition is a diverse group ranging from secular to hard core AQ and Hamas. None of these groups are squeaky clean (an example being the you tube clip of an Opposition Commander eating the heart of a dead soldier).
If the fundamentalists are victorious, life in Syria is going to get worse, not better.

However, as you say, it is a personal choice - but if you make the choice, maybe you've also made a choice about citizenship.
If you want to fight for another country, rescind your rights in this one.

bwaaaa ha ha ha ha haaaaa... Why should I care who wins that particular war? I don't see the Iraqi's as particularly happy at the moment, nor the Afghani's for that matter as they highlight that things were better before American involvement. So methinks you'd better start looking for some other form of straw to hold on to and use as an excuse to hide your obvious naivety and ignorance before trying to brow beat someone with your worthless and highly uneducated opinion.

If they're the limits that so called enlightened, fair and intelligent "men" put forwards as becoming of a citizen, then the army's should all be based off-shore. There is no difference other than perceived permission. Smart folk understand that, dipshits that buy into the propaganda and therefore feel the need to penalise someone for their choices because they don't agree deserve to be put against the wall and shot. After all, it's those levels of ignorance that start wars.

Believe it or not there's rules in war too. Google "Jus in Bello"

They define allowable actions, wepons, treatment of prisoners etc etc. Anyone entering into armed conflict not covered by these rules is what used to be somewhat quaintly called pirate. Which might sound romantic an' all, until you go look how long most pirates remained alive long enough to enjoy the whatever benefits their actions may have gained them.

Shame that there's a minority that don't recognise these people as human beings.

Definitions don't stop bullets killing innocents etc... and in some cases, depending on the "shells" being used, don't stop innocents from being maimed. I'm not glorifying war or justifying it, but I fail to see why a govt should have the monopoly on deciding which wars are just and which wars a person should be allowed to fight in... or at least which side they should be allowed to fight on.

[Oscar]

Smart folk understand that, dipshits that buy into the propaganda and therefore feel the need to penalise someone for their choices

This is quite funny, being as how you post a shitload of propaganda here.