Hi-viz is an idiotic fad

[Scuba_Steve]

But how many is everyone? How many bikes are there on the road anyway to warrant the fear that if everyone (bike rider) wears hi-viz, they'd disappear into the background?

I only see 1 bike in 50 or even 100 cars maybe, so if every biker wore hi-viz, they'd still stand out...

But you're totally ignoring hi-vis road signs, hi-vis road cones, hi-vis road workers, hi-vis road markings, hi-vis cops, hi-vis construction workers, hi-vis truckies etc, etc

[Tigadee]

But you're totally ignoring hi-vis road signs, hi-vis road cones, hi-vis road workers, hi-vis road markings, hi-vis cops, hi-vis construction workers, hi-vis truckies etc, etc

You ignore all those?

Aren't we conditioned that when we see hi-viz orange, we know that there has appeared a situation where caution needs be exercised? When you see orange cones and a 30 sign, you should slow down to 30kph... If you see fellas in orange by the road side, there maybe road works and you should watch out for loose rocks or holes, etc.

If I see white, blue and yellow, I certainly slow the fark down!

[Trade_nancy]

But how many is everyone? How many bikes are there on the road anyway to warrant the rationale that if everyone (bike rider) wears hi-viz, they'd disappear into the background?

I only see 1 bike in 50 or even 100 cars maybe, so if every biker wore hi-viz, they'd still stand out...

and..is the world invisible in daylight cos the sun illuminates all of it? No. Same with hi-viz. If everyone wears it - it still is more visible - just not unusual anymore. I still don't want to wear it; I want it to be optional - not mandatory. I remember the same sort of fuss being made when compulsory crash lids came in....people arguing they weren't any safer than beanies; some saying their necks would get broke due to the weight on their heads; people arguing just because they thought they looked dorky...

[Tigadee]

I still don't want to wear it; I want it to be optional - not mandatory.

THAT I am in agreement with... I'm just not convinced that hi-viz would lose its effectiveness if all motorbike riders had to start wearing them, as there aren't that many motorbikes on the road here day-to-day anyway to justify the rationale...

If we were in a 3rd world country where there are thousands of motorbikes on the road any time of the day, however... (but in a 3rd world country, they may not comply with road safety laws anyway)

[TheDemonLord]

You will look like porridge stuffed into a condom. Not cool.

hence why I need to loose weight first

[James Deuce]

It won't help after either. Most top level motorcycle racers are midgets or a collection of twigs, held together with titanium and carbon fibre. One piece leathers are overkill for the road. Get a good zip-together two-piece so that when you need to go to the toilet, you actually make it, instead of filling your boots.

[Scuba_Steve]

You ignore all those?

Aren't we conditioned that when we see hi-viz orange, we know that there has appeared a situation where caution needs be exercised? When you see orange cones and a 30 sign, you should slow down to 30kph... If you see fellas in orange by the road side, there maybe road works and you should watch out for loose rocks or holes, etc.

If I see white, blue and yellow, I certainly slow the fark down!

But we're also conditioned to acknowledge them as stationary (or at-least not moving with any significant speed) & then there's the "boy who cried wolf" part of it; we see it soo much now people are beginning to ignore it.

[HenryDorsetCase]

What. Track day riding doesn't necessitate a one piece, you can wear two piece leathers, or even two piece textiles if you want. One piece leathers unless racing are a pain in the arse to deal with and wear.

Amen brutha.

No pockets for starters.

[skippa1]

Black stands out well against the whitish glare from the horizon and reflection onto and off blue/green/brown/white .

only been to sea on nice days aye? Black flag against black clouds, black seas with no horizon in 3 + metre seas.
For all I know, you look like a dork without a high viz too.

[Trade_nancy]

only been to sea on nice days aye? Black flag against black clouds, black seas with no horizon in 3 + metre seas.
For all I know, you look like a dork without a high viz too.

8 years commercial fishing..

[quickbuck]

If I see white, blue and yellow, I certainly slow the fark down!

Why?
That's an admission of guilt right there.....
Annoys the sh1t out of me when a drivers natural reaction is to stand on the picks as soon as they see a police car. Darn dangerous!
Even more so on a bike with a smaller tail light and all.
Yes, some drivers are half asleep with cruise control on.....





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[george formby]

only been to sea on nice days aye? Black flag against black clouds, black seas with no horizon in 3 + metre seas.
For all I know, you look like a dork without a high viz too.

We used strings of floats, huge big pink things with flashing lights & flags. 3 or 5 floats, each one 3ft across & flags / lights on 6ft poles. Took us hours to find them on some lumpy days.
Another fishing related thing I learned. Bought a Hi viz, top of the line outfit for working on deck. Brilliant set of gear in every respect, pun intended. Skipper started wearing sun glasses at night when I was setting hooks...
6 months later & it was drab. There is hi viz & hi viz. Last years jacket will not stand out anywhere near as much as a new one.

[skippa1]

8 years commercial fishing..

Over 15 of fishing, commercial passenger and commercial dive skippering for me, so you should know exactly what I am talking about

[skippa1]

We used strings of floats, huge big pink things with flashing lights & flags. 3 or 5 floats, each one 3ft across & flags / lights on 6ft poles. Took us hours to find them on some lumpy days.
Another fishing related thing I learned. Bought a Hi viz, top of the line outfit for working on deck. Brilliant set of gear in every respect, pun intended. Skipper started wearing sun glasses at night when I was setting hooks...
6 months later & it was drab. There is hi viz & hi viz. Last years jacket will not stand out anywhere near as much as a new one.

Yeah they can be a bitch to find even with gps when it's shitty

[Ocean1]

Aren't we conditioned that when we see hi-viz orange, we know that there has appeared a situation where caution needs be exercised? When you see orange cones and a 30 sign, you should slow down to 30kph... If you see fellas in orange by the road side, there maybe road works and you should watch out for loose rocks or holes, etc.

Nope. Too much of it means it's ignored.

Give the responsibility back to drivers/riders and you get les accidents.

http://knowledge.allianz.com/mobilit...duce-accidents

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wi...dents-dutch-to

http://www.dw.de/european-towns-remo...er/a-2143663-1

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-448747.html