How not to ride at the track - Hampton Rider Skills Day

[Drew]

I didnt show them the video. I went and talked to one of the marshals and told him what had happened.
He asked me who it was and i pointed out the culprit. Not sure what the marshal did after that.
Feel free to post it on their Facebook page.

And for all those analyzing and saying i was too slow and hence I had it coming.
The reason for early braking was so much traffic in front as you can see in the video.
I didnt want to overtake just before the corner and hence slowed down.
I dont think i made any sudden moves for this guy to overtake so close. To me he did it just because he is faster and he thinks what he is doing is fine.
The guy definitely did it more than once. I saw him overtake pretty close few times in that same lap.
I am sure we will be having a different conversation if he had actually hit me. Too slow or not it would have been his fault as its made clear in the morning about the 2m rule.

we still don't have all the facts though. What pace group was this? Anyhoo, looked like 2meters to me.

[nodrog:Me]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kCG0lTIl-k

fucksakes, I could get a sidecar through there.


seriously, I think most of you cunts need to take up pocket billiards.

[Drew]

fucksakes, I could get a sidecar through there.


seriously, I think most of you cunts need to take up pocket billiards.

Pfft, like you've ever overtaken anyone with your sidecar!

[nodrog:Me]

Pfft, like you've ever overtaken anyone with your sidecar!

I seem to recall passing you on the final turn at taupo once.

[Metastable]

Harsh words on this thread.

That first video is a tough one.

- The guy passing needs to take responsibility for a clean pass. That's rule #1 of trackdays.... any trackday I have been to that is the golden rule. No one is going to win anything.... but there is a huge chance for losing.

on the other hand

- The guy who got hit took a pretty bad line..... the door was WIDE open and then he moved over for no reason, he didn't keep on his line. There was room and then it was gone.

I have no idea when in the day that took place, but the first couple of sessions guys are often still learning the track and things can be a bit more unpredictable. Also if you are passing everyone in the group at Mach 10, then maybe you are in the wrong group. However, if that is the case, then you should be able to pick a better spot for passing rather than a dodgy one.

Also, the advanced group is usually fairly safe. The speeds are higher, but folks hold their lines and are much more predictable. Beginner groups are usually fairly safe too. The problem group is usually the intermediate group. Speed differentials tend to be too great, you get the guy trying to be the intermediate Rossi and you get guys that should be taking lessons thinking that they are fast enough, when they aren't.

[BoristheBiter]

Harsh words on this thread.

Also, the advanced group is usually fairly safe. The speeds are higher, but folks hold their lines and are much more predictable. Beginner groups are usually fairly safe too. The problem group is usually the intermediate group. Speed differentials tend to be too great, you get the guy trying to be the intermediate Rossi and you get guys that should be taking lessons thinking that they are fast enough, when they aren't.

The biggest problem is when the faster groups sell out so quick riders drop down a group and think they are still riding in a fast group.
You see this a lot at Taupo when groups 2 & 3 sell out and no one wants to play in the racers group so they move into group 4 and start cutting up slow and learner riders.

The organisers of all track days need to be more proactive and move riders accordingly.
And some riders just need to learn patience.

[ggreen]

Getting me worried now - I have a beginners track day booked for a months time ... dont want to be "that guy"!

[nodrog:Me]

Getting me worried now - I have a beginners track day booked for a months time ... dont want to be "that guy"!

Take bubblewrap

[c4.]

Getting me worried now - I have a beginners track day booked for a months time ... dont want to be "that guy"!

Relax, that is a very rare accident, and not something you will see in slow group (disclaimer: no guarantees).
Most of the guys/girls are there to have safe fun. Put your hand up as a first timer and you will even get some FREE track tuition.
Make your fears/concerns known to your instructor and he/she will keep an eye on/out for you.

[ggreen]

Thanks for that - reassuring!

[Mike.Gayner]

I didnt show them the video. I went and talked to one of the marshals and told him what had happened.
He asked me who it was and i pointed out the culprit. Not sure what the marshal did after that.
Feel free to post it on their Facebook page.

And for all those analyzing and saying i was too slow and hence I had it coming.
The reason for early braking was so much traffic in front as you can see in the video.
I didnt want to overtake just before the corner and hence slowed down.
I dont think i made any sudden moves for this guy to overtake so close. To me he did it just because he is faster and he thinks what he is doing is fine.
The guy definitely did it more than once. I saw him overtake pretty close few times in that same lap.
I am sure we will be having a different conversation if he had actually hit me. Too slow or not it would have been his fault as its made clear in the morning about the 2m rule.

Butch up little girl.

[trustme]

Butch up little girl.

Wanker

[newbie2012]

Getting me worried now - I have a beginners track day booked for a months time ... dont want to be "that guy"!

Ah, don't worry about it, You will be fine. I've done my first couple of training days in the novice/slow group and it was awesome. Everyone gave each other room and seemed to take the attitude that if you don't think you've got room to get past, don't push it.

The fast group are just awesome to watch, very skilled and bloody fast and seem to know acceptable track behaviour. I'll worry about the middle groups when I learn to brake later, lean harder and develop more confidence (and possibly learn to bitch & moan a bit more).

Enjoy your track day.

[ggreen]

Haha, brilliantly said!

[nzspokes]

Haha, brilliantly said!

The fact you dont want to be that guy means you probably wont. Ive looked back at the footage of my first couple of track days and realized I could have gone faster if I had cut other riders up. But I didnt and glad as they deserve there fun to.