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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    I reckon the real beef's will be when they DO start getting efficient ... the howls of protest that we'll hear then ...
    It depends on what they are going to be efficient at. If it's going to be keeping the society safe, there won't be any protest. However, if it is going to continue the way it is, they are going to be more efficient in revenue gathering and ensuring the system stays comfortable for the selected circles at the expense of everybody else. In that case, protest is quite possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angle View Post
    It depends on what they are going to be efficient at. If it's going to be keeping the society safe, there won't be any protest. However, if it is going to continue the way it is, they are going to be more efficient in revenue gathering and ensuring the system stays comfortable for the selected circles at the expense of everybody else. In that case, protest is quite possible.
    Two quick fix's in Government revenue gathering for treasury ... increased tax (from every tax payer) or increased fines (from every law breakers).

    Your preference would be .. ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mushu View Post
    If you don't mind listening to some young kid cop rabbit on bullshit just to hear the sound of his own voice then I hope he pulls you over next time.
    We get enough bullshit reading your posts ... I'm just glad we don't get the sound too ...

    I hope the cops don't stop me ... my FJ1200 isn't on the LAM's list ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Two quick fix's in Government revenue gathering for treasury ... increased tax (from every tax payer) or increased fines (from every law breakers).

    Your preference would be .. ???
    How about fines relative to income. Surely fines are a financial punishment for breaking the law so shouldn't the inconvenience of paying a fine be the same for everybody. $100 means very different things to the low income earner as opposed to the exec earning 100k +

    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    We get enough bullshit reading your posts ... I'm just glad we don't get the sound too ...

    I hope the cops don't stop me ... my FJ1200 isn't on the LAM's list ...
    Most of what I see you post seems to be pure horse shit, like taking a thread way off topic to pick holes in a simple example given to illustrate a point. I could write up a full account of what happened on that night and PM it to you so this thread can get back on topic if you really feel the need to judge me (actually no I won't, can't be fucked and I really don't care what you think). If you don't like what I have to say then ignore me, I really couldn't care less.

    As far as the topic of this thread goes, I don't mind the idea of road side checks. It would keep a lot of unroadworthy cars off the road and make people think about maintaining their cars better - especially older vehicles. But the idea makes the current WOF system completely redundant. I wonder how the accident statistics in QLD (where they have no regular vehicle checks) differ from other areas in terms of mechanical failures causing accidents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mushu View Post
    Why do you care, the illegal modifications that were present on my bike have nothing to do with safety unless you think an exhaust would give a 650 single some kind of major power boost.
    Actually, an aftermarket can on the DR650 makes a considerable degree of difference.

    The originals weigh a ton and are very restrictive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Actually, an aftermarket can on the DR650 makes a considerable degree of difference.

    The originals weigh a ton and are very restrictive.
    Enough to put it over 150kw/tonne? Or raise a safety concern? I really don't think so. And it would also depend if my carb were tuned to suit, otherwise it would reduce power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mushu View Post
    Enough to put it over 150kw/tonne? Or raise a safety concern? I really don't think so. And it would also depend if my carb were tuned to suit, otherwise it would reduce power.
    I have an old two stroke that I've just put chambers on. It's not necessarily above the 150kw per tonne limit (but it certainly is with me on it - I don't weight anything near 90kg) but seriously, what are they going to do if they pull me over? Dyno it? The NZTA website only says that bikes on the approved list aren't allowed to be modified. Does that mean a 250 can in fact be modified, as long as it doesn't exceed 150kw per tonne? I've only been pulled over once for running a stop sign, but in the event of being questioned about my bike/the pipes on it I'd like to have my facts straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Two quick fix's in Government revenue gathering for treasury ... increased tax (from every tax payer) or increased fines (from every law breakers).

    Your preference would be .. ???
    My preference would be to have the economy developed properly, not bled dry in order to meet the annual budget.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iranana View Post
    I have an old two stroke that I've just put chambers on. It's not necessarily above the 150kw per tonne limit (but it certainly is with me on it - I don't weight anything near 90kg) but seriously, what are they going to do if they pull me over? Dyno it? The NZTA website only says that bikes on the approved list aren't allowed to be modified. Does that mean a 250 can in fact be modified, as long as it doesn't exceed 150kw per tonne? I've only been pulled over once for running a stop sign, but in the event of being questioned about my bike/the pipes on it I'd like to have my facts straight.
    Technically, I believe it's only the bikes on the list (ie those between 250 and 660cc) that are not allowed to be modified. You are far more likely to find a cop arguing that being a 250 2 stroke excludes it than one worried about an aftermarket pipe.

    Just so you know, at the beginning if the LAMS document it lists the 250 2 strokes that are excluded. I would suggest you carry a copy encase you need to find yourself needing to prove your bike is legal. I carry a copy with me these days after being held up as I stated in my earlier posts.

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    One would think the pigs could have come up with a less gay sounding and open to ridicule acronim than twirl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mushu View Post
    And it would also depend if my carb were tuned to suit, otherwise it would reduce power.
    Actually, no.

    Simply allowing the exhaust gases to escape quicker (and therefore allowing the engine to breathe easier) will give a power increase without any work done to the carb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angle View Post
    My preference would be to have the economy developed properly, not bled dry in order to meet the annual budget.
    Buy (more) New Zealand made products then ... but most seem to prefer to support Asian economy's ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erelyes View Post

    There are those who will swap on a mate's set of wheels/tyres, get the WOF, then spend 10 minutes swapping theirs back on. Like some boy racers.
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    Many years ago I had a Hillman Avenger that had fuck all chance of getting a WOF. It was fucked in many different directions. Lucky for me my old man had a Chrysler Alpine and the Avenger had Chrysler badges on it. A quick number plate swap and bobs you uncle I got a WOF. They didn't have such things as vin numbers to look at in those days. A few weeks later I traded it in at Cyclespot Suzuki for an XR500.

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    Its fucking stupid. Half the idiots don't even know what is legal and what was not. Try and explain, I don't get smart I'm always polite and respectful. But they don't have a bar of it and get all shitty. Power trip much? They don't even help you when you need them as I found.....

    A while back a bunch of 5 dickheads probably drunk or on acid/meths/their own ass, decided to randomly punch me while walking through a park after getting some lunch in Palmerston North. I was driving back in my friends car and he was driving a car he'd just got back up to Auckland. I really don't get the reason, they didn't jump me/take anything. Just all who the fuck are you etc and then started dancing and such. Didn't feel much like a waltz that day myself and there were 5 of them so I never really had a chance. Started running. Got given a couple of hits but I wasn't going to give any back as there were 5 of the cunts.

    Just across the road a cop was ticketing someone. I kid you not. Cop didn't do a thing though , I was suprized once they started hitting me I was yelling - couldn't really fight back with 5:1 odds. Even when I marched over highly fucked off and pointed to the pricks who were running away and getting into a shitty silver Primera, I was even reading the plate to the damn pig. Demanded he arrest them. Nope, it seems a ticket was far more important than me getting bashed by a pack of cunts!

    Safer communities my ass what a fucking joke, can't even get that right

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    Truckers already now about these 'quick' checks... quick is anywhere from 7-20mins of your life stolen and that's if they don't find anything wrong.
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    Ask the truck driver I stopped in Thames on Wednesday if he minded being stopped and if he felt his time had been "stolen". Found a split left front brake hose pumping all the fluid out every time he braked. Was just heading for the Coromandel loop too. Want to meet his truck on ya bike when he runs out of brakes?
    He didn't even object to a seatbelt ticket. Was just very grateful I possibly saved his or somebody else's life. Good thing I'm a qualified mechanic as well as a
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