Psyclepath
My point, that it doesn't matter unless they're operating on taxpayer cash, still stands though.Originally Posted by Banditbandit
We know that the Telegraph leans right and the Guardian and Indy lean left and they stand or fall if people buy them or not.
The BBC pushes left wing propaganda on the licence fee
Only a homo puts an engine back together WITHOUT making it go faster.
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
So why should the taxpayer (who can't comprehend torrents, apparently) fund a propaganda network?
Profit maker? How does tvnz cope without the taxpayer propping it up? It's not like their executives are on minimum wage or the "living wage"... (more like "living in a mansion while driving the Maserati to the local restaurant for a snack" wage).
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
Forum whore
I thought you were a hard left academic drone pretending to be a neutral observer. KB's first astroturfer. My bad.
But while we're ridiculing "silent T' here's my favourite clip of him practicing getting down with the people... really down with the people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvenqcfX1j8
Forum whore
Same way all broadcasters do - selling ad space. I know you don't want to believe it, but TVNZ indeed makes a profit. It's a net winner for the tax payer.
Just faidin away!
Well they sure do bash the hell out of advertising space (at the expense of the programs) but a winner for taxpayers?
Just like ACC TV1 is nothing but a constant political football and a breeding ground for political discontents!
Government should stick to it's knitting and concentrate on core activities, business was never intended to be part of that!
Forum whore
Here's a post from the left leaning blog the Dim-Post on "silent t's" penchant for fuckups :-
http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2014/02...eeling-update/
Bored Room
Anyone what the doco on TV 3 " Mind the Gap"?
http://www.tv3.co.nz/INSIDE-NEW-ZEAL...6/Default.aspx
It explained the 'trickle down' effect as " trickle up" and how business's pay minimum wages suck out the profits and the middle class prop up the poor.
Muldoon came out looking better than Roger Douglas.
DeMyer's Laws - an argument that consists primarily of rambling quotes isn't worth bothering with.
Psyclepath
"Trickle-down" is a strawman argument: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ickle-down-lie
Only a homo puts an engine back together WITHOUT making it go faster.
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
A profit, as well as paying money back into the public purse (over and above what the taxpayer pours into it) would be lovely.
But still being the mouthpiece of government is not required.
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
Just faidin away!
Muldoon was the most socialist prime minister in NZ history .. he controlled everything and would have taken more control if he could have!
Rodger Douglas on the other hand? ... twas the time when National and Labour swopped positions and their respective voters never even noticed!
Anarchic Wild Child
Yep .. TV3 and radio live Green as the grass on the New Zealand hills .. Homo TV1 and anything on the left side of centre!
Meh .. I'm biased against fuckwits!It gets very lonely being perfect y'know!
Propaganda network is a value judgement ... and if the state did not fund a network to get its message out, then how would the state get it's message out? Leave it to the biased news media ???
Yeah ... the man is a fool ... and while fools may be electable at first - they never last long in politics ..
That's not surprising ... Muldoon was our last and strongest socialist PM ... while Douglas was a complete neo-Liberal ... if you were left wing who would you support???
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Anarchic Wild Child
I will own up to that - I do regard myself as "hard left" - and I regard our current misnamed Labour Party as further right than the original Liberals ...
I can understand how you might think that - I try not to be. I do try to have an impact on the lives of the people who walk into my classroom, by preparing them to get a job as best I can ... I try to teach them how to think - and I avoid teaching them what to think .. I give top marks to the students who disagree with me .. to do that well, they have to understand what I am saying, analysis and think about what I am saying - if they can disagree with me then they have learnt what I want them to. So I'm not a left-wing propagandist in the classroom ... ( well, maybe just a little - the students always know where I stand on any issue - but they don't have to agree with me - we are talking adults here, not sensitive young and growing minds)academic drone
I do try to have an impact on Academia by trying to force them to have the same impact on the lives of their students - bastards are usually happy to be drones and don't care about their students ...
I probably share your assessment of academia in general ..
The ONLY way to get students to think and to argue is to declare my bias. And if you've ever been in my classroom, that's the first thing I tell students - here's my bias .. I don't expect you to agree with me, and I am not a neutral person - I am open about my bias .. it's up to you to take that into account ..,. I don't believe in this bullshit about objectivity - there is no such thing ... So I declare my bias ..pretending to be a neutral observer.
Sorry I don't get the "astroturfer" reference .. (Oh .. ok .. I googled it .. there are several possibilities .. interesting uses of the word ... do you mean fake identity claims ? If yes, then No .. but I like my privacy ... so I am reluctant to put stuff here (or anywhere) that can identify the actual person ... I'm pretty protective of my privacy at all times)KB's first astroturfer. My bad.
I fail to see how such a middle class arsehole can claim to represent working people .. and I fail to see how the dumb fucking party thought that working people would put up with a fool ... are they so condescending that they thinking working people would not see he's a fool !!!But while we're ridiculing "silent T' here's my favourite clip of him practicing getting down with the people... really down with the people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvenqcfX1j8
And just so we are really clear .. I think to lose this year's election John Key would have to be caught having sex with Len Browne on the Speaker's Chair in Parliament's debating chamber .. and, like, that's ever going to happen ! (Doesn't mean I have to like it ..)
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
Surely that is called Parliament TV. Tune it in for some of the finest comedy in NZ.
I wonder if Parliament TV will broadcast that?
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
Just faidin away!
True! That's my current take on it too but the media have yet to go full out with their directional propaganda!
Maybe they (the media) are confused by the interchangeability of the current political mix and can't decide which way to run!
As for your Key/Brown suggestion ... nothing but nothing, will ever surprise me in this country ever again!
Just faidin away!
Just listen to that Cunliff speech clip again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvenqcfX1j8
Ask yourself if that is the sort of man that you really want to lead our country? Was he simply a rabid raving scaremonger?
Nearly all of what he was raving about is in past tense ... has it really been so bad, so harmfull and was he actually right? ... You be the judge!
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