Motorcycle safety campaign. Yeah right.

[Akzle]

I also note in the Land Transport (Road Safety and Other Matters) Amendment Act 2011 that radar jammers are now illegal. Didn't realise that before.

radar jammers have been illegal for a long time. They used to butsecks you with the broadcasting act. Or some shit.

[yevjenko]

radar jammers have been illegal for a long time. They used to butsecks you with the broadcasting act. Or some shit.

They used to do that for us in the UK with standard radar detectors. They're still illegal over there, but now have their own enshrinement in law

[FJRider]

It was my impression that they had to send the licence back to you if they don't return it after the 15 minutes.

Where did you get the impression they had to let you go after 15 minutes .. ?? !5 minutes is a general guideline only. If it takes longer to carry out due process of his duties with you ... your bad luck.

Leave before he allows you to .... he could send it back with your ticket ... (with notification of the fine and the 35 Demerits)

[yevjenko]

Where did you get the impression they had to let you go after 15 minutes .. ??

Land Transport Act 1998 Section 114 - on the assumption that no other offences have been committed

otherwise the detainment period is only listed as "a reasonable amount of time" which is up to interpretation

[FJRider]

Land Transport Act 1998 Section 114 - on the assumption that no other offences have been committed

otherwise the detainment period is only listed as "a reasonable amount of time" which is up to interpretation

I doubt the Cops "Assume" you have committed no (other ??) offence when they stop you ... for whatever reason they give you at the time. It may take more than 15 minutes to give your bike a "Safety check" ... and your attitude at the time will affect how hard they look ..

Reality is ... they don't need a reason to stop you anymore. Totally random stops are now legal ...

Reasonable Time ... is usually up to the "interpretation" of the cop ...

Quote the Land Transport Act to patrol officers ... that really impresses them ...

[FJRider]

Land Transport Act 1998 Section 114 - on the assumption that no other offences have been committed

otherwise the detainment period is only listed as "a reasonable amount of time" which is up to interpretation

As of 01 November, 2013 ...

(5) An enforcement officer may require a driver to remain stopped on a road for as long as is reasonably necessary to enable the officer to establish the identity of the driver, but not for longer than 15 minutes if the requirement to remain stopped is made under this subsection only.

In other words ... to establish identity only. And as I recall ... if your identity is not established (to the officers satisfaction)... you can be arrested and held is custody until your identity is ascertained.

Should they hold you longer than the 15 minutes (to establish identity) ... you still cannot just up and leave. (that is an offense) But you can make an official complaint. In writing of course.

[skippa1]

You should read Section 113 and 114 of the Land Transport Act 1998. There you will find that Police can stop you to check you have a drivers license, inspect your vehicle and the such. No need to suspect you at all.

If you say "Bye bye" and ride off you will find out about Section 116 where you get arrested for failure to remain stopped.

You should just learn to read what people write

[FJRider]

Nothing gives them the right to detain you unless they suspect you of breaking a law. They certainly can't detain you to do a survey.

am I under arrest? Am I being detained as a suspect?

if not......good bye

As Gremlin A
and I have already said ... yes they can.

Section 114 that I recall you quoting .... read 3 paragraph (b)
h


(2 A) Subject to subsections (4) and (5), the driver of a vehicle that is stopped by an enforcement officer under this Act must remain stopped for as long as is reasonably necessary for the enforcement officer to complete the exercise of any powers conferred, or duties imposed, on an enforcement officer by this Act.

(3) An enforcement officer may require the driver of a vehicle that is stopped under this Act to—

(a) remain stopped for as long as is reasonably necessary for an enforcement officer to obtain the particulars referred to in paragraph (b), or to complete the exercise of any other power conferred on an enforcement officer by this Act; and

(b) on demand by an enforcement officer,—

(i) give his or her full name, full address, date of birth, occupation, and telephone number, or such of those particulars as the enforcement officer may specify; and

(ii) state whether or not he or she is the owner of the vehicle; and

[pritch]

radar jammers have been illegal for a long time. They used to butsecks you with the broadcasting act. Or some shit.

Correct. The charge would be something along the lines of operating an unlicenced transmitter. The detector is only a receiver. It doesn't just detect Police radars it does a real good job of detecting ships while driving along the waterfront...

[skippa1]

As Gremlin A
and I have already said ... yes they can

Fuck me......sorry, that puts it in a different light, you must be right then
touching that you care so much that I might get arrested.......shame you don't understand your own human rights.....you are h.....ah forget it

[yevjenko]

The definition of reasonable in English law (which is what we have here, there being two legal systems, French or English) is what the common person would find reasonable (in British law the term is 'a man on the Clapham omnibus'). If you have presented your licence and answered the 'who, where, what do you do', that is sufficient proof of identity. that point you can ask the officer if he has any other business with you and be legally within your rights to leave. Bear in mind that the op was about stops due to a safety campaign

I always remain polite to police, irrelevant of whether they are one of the good ones, or one of the pricks.

sent from my phone (so scuze auto correct typos)

[FJRider]

.....shame you don't understand your own human rights.....

You probably mean Legal rights ... ask your mother to explain the difference.

A human right is being allowed to breathe/eat etc... rights you seem to abuse ... and I feel wasted ... on you ...

[Kickaha]

Reality is ... they don't need a reason to stop you anymore. Totally random stops are now legal ...

They stopped me about 2.30pm just before the Lindis river on Sunday just gone, doing random breath tests

Did a WOF and rego check as well which made me pretty fucking glad I'd done the rego online the day before, thought I'd be safe for a while after so made sure I exceeded the speed limit through to Omarama to make up for the time they wasted

[FJRider]

They stopped me about 2.30pm just before the Lindis river on Sunday just gone, doing random breath tests

Did a WOF and rego check as well which made me pretty fucking glad I'd done the rego online the day before, thought I'd be safe for a while after so made sure I exceeded the speed limit through to Omarama to make up for the time they wasted

Their favorite spot to park is near the bottom of Longslip gully ... just before where the road sweeps right to follow the river out to Omarama. It is well policed though ... and I wouldn't claim safe ... just lucky.

To sit on 100 km/hr ALL the way through would be quite a feat. It is a good way to kill an hour or so ...

[skippa1]

You probably mean Legal rights ... ask your mother to explain the difference.

A human right is being allowed to breathe/eat etc... rights you seem to abuse ... and I feel wasted ... on you ...

The human rights act
read it





again....nice to know you care