Watch the news - B777 missing

**SMOKEU** · 10th March 2014, 09:53

Originally Posted by avgas

erm - how would you know.
Most people don't see pilots. Which is why they can get on the plane drunk in NZ.....

And the USA too, like America West 556.

**avgas** · 10th March 2014, 11:47

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

And the USA too, like America West 556.

and then some.

Which is why I refer back to my previous comment. At least the Asian guy studied to be a pilot. Get him to sit on a few phone books and he is fine.

**Scouse** · 10th March 2014, 16:32

Originally Posted by Tigadee

Fuck you, round eye!

Don't you mean "Fluck you Lound eye"?

**5150** · 10th March 2014, 18:47

Originally Posted by Waihou Thumper

Maybe, or the fuselage failing, sudden decompression or even a fire? Or some panic stricken PAX went berserk, OR Aliens.....
Yip, you can have a job at CSI anyday... Nice one!

Any of those scenarios still would have given time to hit the "panic button"

Sudden explosion (like the one on the Lockerbie crash) would not give the pilots any time to put out May Day call

**pete376403** · 10th March 2014, 18:55

A question about the transponder - I've seen references (not necessarily referring to this flight) "the transponder can be turned off from in the cockpit". Why would the crew ever want to do that?
(I'm assuming that the transponder normally is continuously sending out a aircraft ID and location signal)

**SMOKEU** · 10th March 2014, 19:24

Originally Posted by pete376403

A question about the transponder - I've seen references (not necessarily referring to this flight) "the transponder can be turned off from in the cockpit". Why would the crew ever want to do that?
(I'm assuming that the transponder normally is continuously sending out a aircraft ID and location signal)

Well, it can be done as in Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907 when an Embraer Legacy N600XL had a mid air collision with the Gol 737 after the Embraer accidentally turned the transponder off. No transponder = no TCAS. You can see why transponders have to remain operative during commercial flights, but I can't think of a legit reason to turn it off during flight unless the transponder is faulty and ATC requests the flight crew to switch if off. It would get turned off on the ground though, and be turned on before the flight commences.

The aircraft can still be tracked on radar without the transponder.

**Tigadee** · 10th March 2014, 21:19

Originally Posted by Scouse

Don't you mean "Fluck you Lound eye"?

Plecisery!

**5150** · 11th March 2014, 12:40

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

Well, it can be done as in Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907 when an Embraer Legacy N600XL had a mid air collision with the Gol 737 after the Embraer accidentally turned the transponder off. No transponder = no TCAS. You can see why transponders have to remain operative during commercial flights, but I can't think of a legit reason to turn it off during flight unless the transponder is faulty and ATC requests the flight crew to switch if off. It would get turned off on the ground though, and be turned on before the flight commences.

The aircraft can still be tracked on radar without the transponder.

Aircraft can still be seen on radar without the transponder being turned on. But the radar reading does not identify the aircraft other then a blip on the screen. Transponder gives the aircrafts ID as well as its altitude and speed. Pilots will use a squawk number for identification. Transponder can only be turned on and off on the plane (not on the ground) Generally if it malfunctions durring the flight, ATC will ask the pilots to check it or squawk a number back. Sometimes they will even ask you to confirm that it is on and set to the correct assigned squawk number.

However pilots can use the transponders to squawk emergency or May Day signal if radio can not be used. Good example will be if the aircraft is hijacked and pilots don't want to use the radios, they will squawk the distress signal via aircrafts transponder. Usually the hijackers will demand that the transponder be turned off so the plane can not be tracked. But it will still show up as an identified signal on the radar screen.

**Dave h** · 13th March 2014, 18:14

This is getting well into the wtf zone now, I thought that the sat images that china released today would clear this up plus the location of said images does tie in to the sighting from the kiwi on the oil rig when taking time and tide flows into question.

But no http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/5...-lost-131.html

**Akzle** · 13th March 2014, 19:42

im awed by the amount of internet being wasted discussing this.

Who gives a fuck?
Plane gone. Happened before, will happen again. Bermuda and shit.

**SMOKEU** · 13th March 2014, 20:10

Originally Posted by Akzle

im awed by the amount of internet being wasted discussing this.

Who gives a fuck?
Plane gone. Happened before, will happen again. Bermuda and shit.

It's not "wasted" bandwidth/time. A large jetliner that is a real workhorse the world over for many large carriers has simply disappeared. It's only fair that people demand answers.

**Berries** · 13th March 2014, 22:43

Originally Posted by Akzle

Plane gone.

Or has it................................................ .............................

**Tigadee** · 13th March 2014, 23:58

No mayday, disappeared off radar in the blink of an eye, no terrorist connections/claims of responsibility, no wreckage or debris, no traces...

**oneblackflag** · 14th March 2014, 00:40

Originally Posted by Tigadee

No mayday, disappeared off radar in the blink of an eye, no terrorist connections/claims of responsibility, no wreckage or debris, no traces...

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+1 I'm not saying it was Aliens.... But, it was Aliens