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[The Reibz]

Fuuuarrrkkkkkkk. Seriously looking good bro.
Keep the airbox, pods and foam filters can be a absolute nightmare to tune properly and you always end up with small flatspots. Go injected and stick a turbo on it...
Change the overflow bottle to a neon blue flask or something and put a nos sticker on it for extra street cred.
It needs a nice rear hugger too, but only my opinion

[ducatilover]

I like that one better. Looking good man.

Cheers
If you look carefully there's a chance an almost finished bros frame/swinger are in teh garage somewhere

Fuuuarrrkkkkkkk. Seriously looking good bro.
Keep the airbox, pods and foam filters can be a absolute nightmare to tune properly and you always end up with small flatspots. Go injected and stick a turbo on it...
Change the overflow bottle to a neon blue flask or something and put a nos sticker on it for extra street cred.
It needs a nice rear hugger too, but only my opinion

Cheers! Agree with all you points mate, I'm forever whinging to people about pods on CVs, but I may do it for the looks (total magpie...)
Can't afford EFI, and I'm a strange carb loving fella overflow bottle is a temp job, have something very different in the works

Turbo... haven't got the coin for it at the moment, unless somebody has a mega cheap IHI RHB31 floating around.
Hugger will get done once I find a nicer swing arm

[The Reibz]

hahaha yeah im pro carbs too. They are just a real bitch to tune after you do something to the motor. Factorypro might do a jet kit for your bike, everything I hear about them from the FZR world sugests that they are better than Dynojet. From experience I find Dynojet kits to run a little rich, blackens my plugs on the street after about 100km.

[ducatilover]

hahaha yeah im pro carbs too. They are just a real bitch to tune after you do something to the motor. Factorypro might do a jet kit for your bike, everything I hear about them from the FZR world sugests that they are better than Dynojet. From experience I find Dynojet kits to run a little rich, blackens my plugs on the street after about 100km.

I've set mine up for the exhaust, filter and ign advancer it has
148 Keihin size mains
3 turns out, pilot screw
OEM pilot jets
9mm floats
1.5mm raised standard taper needles
runs mint

Usually the ZZR6s get flat spots at 3-4 with a 4-1 but the floats and needles got rid of that, it pulls cleanly from idle with no stumbling or flatspots now, the advancer helped a fair bit in the midrange too (being a 4cyl 600 it has no midrange anyway)

The needle Dynojet does for mine is soft and wears real quick but I've never bothered buying a full jet kit, cheaper to buy the jets myself ($6 ea) and shim the needles, somehow I've never had to change taper on my needles. Must be lucky

[ducatilover]

May be overdue for an update.
Built a new set of forky things.
New speedo set up (frenched in to the headlight I think is the correct term)
New idiot lights
New bushings for the rearsets.

Still waiting for a mate... to do the subframe, but these things do take time.
Rebuilt the front brakes again, just because anything that came off to do the forks had to be perfect going on.

So after, what, two years? I have finished the front end Not very good progress

Really need the sbframe sorted, then it's all plain and easy sailing from there on.
I'll try get some pics up soon, but it doesn't really look different apart from having no tail at all and a few painted parts on the front

Needs turbo, too.
I have turbo.

[benhall]

dear lord... why do you have an aw11

[ducatilover]

Was the old flatmate's, not mine.
Cool cars, them.

[The Reibz]

[QUOTE=ducatilover;1130691372Needs turbo, too.
I have turbo.[/QUOTE]

Yeahhhhhhh Buddddyyyyyy
Still another 6 weeks before I will get my hands on mine. Still getting machined up in Canada. Tripple ceramic bearing for ultra fast spoolups

[ducatilover]

Yeahhhhhhh Buddddyyyyyy
Still another 6 weeks before I will get my hands on mine. Still getting machined up in Canada. Tripple ceramic bearing for ultra fast spoolups

Should have nice response with that kind of tastiness in it! What's the details on yours?
I have a CT9A that's needing a seal kit, it will most likely spool relatively well, but will run out of puff up top, or should be getting a KKK K04 off a mate. The K04 isn't terribly good quality, but they're quite small. A K03 wouldn't pull well on a 600, so I expect the k04 will do well. Will have to hunt down some boost maps and have a think

I'd be happy with something that makes max boost around the 6k mark, but it's only a small motor at the end of the day

I have a fuel pump for it, no adj rising rate reg yet, can get a BOV for nothing. We'll see how it goes, may be down the pipe line yet, I want to get the GN finished asap.

[benhall]

what ecu do you use?

[The Reibz]

This is my parts list. Hopefully shipping out from from RCC in the next couple of days. Can't wait to get my hands on it.

High spec custom machined competition turbocharger (Triple Ceramic Ball Bearing, good for 500hp)
Wossner 81mm Forged Pistons (9.1)
Wossner Chrome Moly Connecting Rods
No Limits Racing boost compensating clutch (custom made)
APE High Performance Headstuds
APE Rod Studs
110psi Oil Pump Gear
Oil Cooler Eliminator
Heavy duty Gearbox output shaft, shift rods and sprocket
Vance and Hines Drag Spec cam chain
APE Adjustable cam sprockets
APE 65lbs Valve Springs
APE Bronze Valve Guides
APE Titanium Valve Retainers
APE Prostreet chain tensioner
62lbs MPS Fuel injectors
Custom RCC billet fuel rail
AEM Alcohol injection kit
Schnitz Racing Heavy Duty Cush Drive Dampener
.080 Base Spacer
Cometic Gaskets all round

Next Upgrades:
Link G4+ Storm ECU
8 inch over bolt on Swing arm extensions
Galfer Rotors and lines
EK Drag Chain
Supersprox Rear Sprocket

This has cost me a fortune and my Retirement Super took a huge hit, but I would rather ride a sick bike now than have that money in 40 years when im old and broken.

My turbo was custom made by Competition Turbos with a Billet compressor and turbine wheels and tripple ceramic ball bearings. Its good for upto 500hp on paper. I will be running a set of 62lbs injectors through a billet fuel rail on a 1:1 FPR. Was going to go down the Rising Rate route but decided against it because in the long run I want to go intercooled for a bit more boost.

If your serious about turboing your 600 maybe look at what guys are doing with the 1l Dihatsus and shit. A small turbo from a Legacy (VF13?) would probably be a good size. It would need to be dynod and have a custom ECU fitted. Old power commanders map off TPS/RPM where as the newer ones come with a optional Map Sensor for Pressure/Temp mapping.

I have read into this stuff alot, can't wait to get my hands dirty and start on the build.

[ducatilover]

This is my parts list. Hopefully shipping out from from RCC in the next couple of days. Can't wait to get my hands on it.



This has cost me a fortune and my Retirement Super took a huge hit, but I would rather ride a sick bike now than have that money in 40 years when im old and broken.

My turbo was custom made by Competition Turbos with a Billet compressor and turbine wheels and tripple ceramic ball bearings. Its good for upto 500hp on paper. I will be running a set of 62lbs injectors through a billet fuel rail on a 1:1 FPR. Was going to go down the Rising Rate route but decided against it because in the long run I want to go intercooled for a bit more boost.

That's a hella nice list you have there!

If your serious about turboing your 600 maybe look at what guys are doing with the 1l Dihatsus and shit. A small turbo from a Legacy (VF13?) would probably be a good size. It would need to be dynod and have a custom ECU fitted. Old power commanders map off TPS/RPM where as the newer ones come with a optional Map Sensor for Pressure/Temp mapping.

I have read into this stuff alot, can't wait to get my hands dirty and start on the build.

K04 will be more efficient that a VJ13, those early VF and VJ have pretty poor designed wheels and housings, may as well run the CT9A if I was going basic. If I were to use a VF turbo, you can pick up VF10s fairly cheap, but same story really. The K04 will spool better than a VF10 on the 600, purely due to better designed wheels and lighter weight
A GT25 series would be ideal for the ol' 600 though
I have carbs. No need for ECUs CVKs are easy enough to set up as a blow through system. Already have a 4 deg ignition retarder I made (have a stock, +4 and a -4)
Which will take it back to 16BTDC static, I can go back more if need be, but the head is very well designed and should reduce most of the risk of detonation.
As for boost, would stick to 6psi max on a non intercooled carby pig, will be running 1 psi fuel over intake pressure in to it and with the 8mm float needles I wouldn't push more than 7psi comfortably (would need to retrofit some 10mm ones out of a late CBR900) and wouldn't want anything horrid happening to intake temps (although atomising fuel under boost in a carb motor cools a significant amount, still not cool)

Getting mixtures right is a walk in the park (not really... but still not hard) run the carb bowl vent in to the intake before the plenum, and I'll be running an air bleed or just an inline air jet, adjusting the volume of air and pressure will take care of the AFRs. Bit of a road tune and have it running low 11afrs to keep it safe and we'll be making a wee bit more power over stock.
If it made 130whp I would be pretty happy (not much, but who cares, it's cool!)

One bonus is the ZX6D engine in mine had stronger internals than the identical looking ZX6E motor (the ramair ZZR600), they're a bit heavier (thicker across the gudgeon, heavier pistons, bigger bottom and main journals) so it's as tough as an old shitter gets.
I may consider running a ;aser cute 1mm base gasket to lower compression, but I will need vernier slotted camgears to get the timing all hunky dory again, so that's not on the plans yet

[The Reibz]

Fuck sounds like you have done some serious research bro.
If you are worried about intake temps you could always install a water/alc injection kit. Pretty much a band aid for low boost applications but it will help reduce the chance of detonation.

How do carb diaphrams react under boost? Can't imagine the extra pressure would be good for them. I have seen throttle plates on prostreet busas which have been bent backwards from boost presures after the throttle is snapped shut. All the more reason to buy a top of the line BOV if you are running those sorts of presures.

The builder that sourced me all my parts put his 500hp+ busa on the dyno yesterday and burnt out the tyre ON THE DYNO. After changing the tyre from a shinko hook up to the standard bridgestone that comes with the busa, the bike gained nearly 40hp. Totally crazy the numbers that guys are pushing for in the states. I only wish we could have a scene like that here...

[Drew]

Tyres wear out on the dyno all the time. The rollers are super abrasive because of the gnurled steel surface. Changing from a softer compound sticky tyre will always lower the reading because of the extra drag where they wrap around roller more.

Diaphragm crabs work best if ya can just build a box right around the whole lot. In theory they shouldn't need jets, but because the high point volume is increased then needles with a steeped taper and bigger mains are the go...or just run the thing rich till it spools up.

[ducatilover]

Fuck sounds like you have done some serious research bro.
If you are worried about intake temps you could always install a water/alc injection kit. Pretty much a band aid for low boost applications but it will help reduce the chance of detonation.

I think I read something once and used a spanner twice
Water or alcohol would be neat, but I don't have room to fit a reasonable res for it, so won't be doing that. Intake temps should be okay with the K04 and lower boost, otherwise I will just build a cooler for it (did one for a project once, half an R32 GTS-T cooler with custom tanks made up, worked well).
The biggest issue for me is it ruins the relatively simple look of the bike

How do carb diaphrams react under boost? Can't imagine the extra pressure would be good for them. I have seen throttle plates on prostreet busas which have been bent backwards from boost presures after the throttle is snapped shut. All the more reason to buy a top of the line BOV if you are running those sorts of presures.

they're fine if you have a nice blow off valve set up and reasonable plenum size, they will just bust if you get any compressor surge, but that shouldn't be an issue on such low boost/CFMs.

The builder that sourced me all my parts put his 500hp+ busa on the dyno yesterday and burnt out the tyre ON THE DYNO. After changing the tyre from a shinko hook up to the standard bridgestone that comes with the busa, the bike gained nearly 40hp. Totally crazy the numbers that guys are pushing for in the states. I only wish we could have a scene like that here...

The boost figures those guys are running is crazy. I like it

Diaphragm crabs work best if ya can just build a box right around the whole lot. In theory they shouldn't need jets, but because the high point volume is increased then needles with a steeped taper and bigger mains are the go...or just run the thing rich till it spools up.

Hence fucking with the carb bowl vents, eliminates the need to do stupid jetting so it works well off boost