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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dog View Post
    ...I also once took someone's keys out of the ignition and threw them into some bushes for changing lanes across my front wheel even though they saw me.

    I also looking back see how I could have been arrested for either act.
    How is throwing someone's keys away illegal? Don't think it would count as burglary and you'd be hard pushed to get it recorded as theft

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    Quote Originally Posted by yevjenko View Post
    How is throwing someone's keys away illegal? Don't think it would count as burglary and you'd be hard pushed to get it recorded as theft
    Huh? Pretty obvious, I thought. The keys are the property of the driver. They were taken without the driver's permission. Therefore, clearly theft. Even if a minor case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    Huh? Pretty obvious, I thought. The keys are the property of the driver. They were taken without the driver's permission. Therefore, clearly theft. Even if a minor case.
    I'm not so sure, they were not converted or taken from the scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yevjenko View Post
    I'm not so sure, they were not converted or taken from the scene.

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    Actually it probably is conversion (which a civil offence not a crime) but it is not theft

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    Quote Originally Posted by yevjenko View Post
    I'm not so sure, they were not converted or taken from the scene.
    Surely the "scene" in this case is the extent of the driver's property i.e the car?
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    Motorists swerving at bikes

    Either way I felt 10 feet tall and bullet proof at the time. Like I had done the world a favour. Now I cringe in shame. I may have made that one driver think twice before pushing in with a smirk on their dial again. But how many passers by now have a lower opinion of bikers?

    In those days I was 6'4" and 120kg of reasonably athletic. (20 years have taken their toll). Dressed all in black leather including the obligatory Brando style jacket, Johnny Reb boots, thick leather gauntlets. Pretty intimidating even when trying not to be.

    Most of us can agree that violence has no place in our homes. Surely the road is no different.
    Why is road rage induced violence / intimidation acceptable / encoraged?

    What does it achieve?


    In my experience lower self esteem, lower public perception and less consideration from spectators.

    I don't expect us to all stand around and hold hands but I do want better for us than to be those knuckle dragging mouth breathers the public perceive us as.


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    Well said

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    Never had this happen

    Quote Originally Posted by oneblackflag View Post
    How often have you had a motorist swerve at you? Actually come right over into your lane seemingly purposefully with the intent of scaring you, not on a bend; and you've had to take evastive action

    Has happened to me twice over the last month. Once on Waring Rd near Taupiri, Waikato; once today on State Highway 27 near Patetonga Waikato.

    Both times middle aged men. Today it was one of those minitue trucks, the other was a car. Neather time was I actually scared just did what I had to, swerve to the left; sure gets me wound up though

    Wondering if Road style bikes get it too, im on a Dual Sport that looks like a Dirt Bike; wondered if that was the reason, them thinking I shouldn't be on the road? Or just a general loathing for bikers...

    Didn't bother with getting plate numbers, as I figure It could go bad if I start chasing after them... Seriously considering a Go Pro to record these events to give to Police...

    Thoughs?
    If it happened to be me I know follow them and then and then report them, if my temper didn't get the better off me first

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    Had a bit of a road rage incident today, at about 5:30pm riding down Brougham St in Christchurch, heading home from Hornby to Linwood, filtering through traffic at about 20 kmh, coming up to the Antigua St lights.

    I had a woman in the left lane in a Toyota starlet push right to block my path but there was still just enough room to get through, as I approached she held her hand just out through the window (which was only open about 10cm) then as I passed she made a point of throwing her cigarette at me. I made a point of stopping and she opened her window the rest of the way and yelled at me. (I just turned up my headphones, don't really care what she was saying).

    By the time I passed her I was slipping the clutch in first gear going very slow, (so as not to hit anything with my handlebars), so slow my speedo would have registered zero kmh. I still don't know what her problem was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mushu View Post
    Had a bit of a road rage incident today, at about 5:30pm riding down Brougham St in Christchurch, heading home from Hornby to Linwood, filtering through traffic at about 20 kmh, coming up to the Antigua St lights.

    I had a woman in the left lane in a Toyota starlet push right to block my path but there was still just enough room to get through, as I approached she held her hand just out through the window (which was only open about 10cm) then as I passed she made a point of throwing her cigarette at me. I made a point of stopping and she opened her window the rest of the way and yelled at me. (I just turned up my headphones, don't really care what she was saying).

    By the time I passed her I was slipping the clutch in first gear going very slow, (so as not to hit anything with my handlebars), so slow my speedo would have registered zero kmh. I still don't know what her problem was.
    Her problem was Jealousy. Just ask them how they would like to drive to the same restrictions as a B-train and watch the light dawn on their faces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    Her problem was Jealousy.
    Maybe, maybe not.

    Maybe her problem was yesterday's lane splitter who didn't give a fuck whether they hit her car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Maybe, maybe not.

    Maybe her problem was yesterday's lane splitter who didn't give a fuck whether they hit her car.
    Maybe, but how often do we deal with cagers putting our lives at risk (as opposed to the risk of a scratched wing mirror) surely if she can take out yesterdays frustrations on me, I can jump off the bike and take her mirrors off because I'm pissed off about the last inconsiderate cager.

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    Here's how to deal with cagers that piss you off.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWl1hMfMF34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Maybe, maybe not.

    Maybe her problem was yesterday's lane splitter who didn't give a fuck whether they hit her car.
    That only works if she is happy to be squashed by the trucker that was cut up by a car yesterday. That would also get her out of Mushu's way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by awa355 View Post
    Here's how to deal with cagers that piss you off.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWl1hMfMF34
    lol, I have seen that vid a few times now, although kinda like taking a knife to a gun fight considering the guy in the car could easily just run him over, theres another vid getting around where a car cuts off a bike so the guy on the bike follows him to the next lights and pulls a battery powered angle grinder from somewhere and cuts his mirror off, thats a bit more my style I think, carrying an axe on a bike just seems like a hassle to me anyway. I have considered carrying the ceramic bits from a spark plug, might even be able to get away with that on the sly if they follow you, you can just flick it over your shoulder not sure if it would work that easy on a windscreen since they're laminated.

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