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    When I sat my license (a very long time ago) I was warned before we started I would be failed if I did not use my back brake. I could use the front as well If I wished, but at all lights and the mandatory hill start they had to see me use my foot brake.

    Does anyone know if this is still the case?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    you should always exceed the posted limit. Speed limits are for pussies.
    Speed limit is for poor people like me who can't afford to pay fines or lose my license, usually if you go faster the tail gater goes faster, exceeding the speed limit can get you paralised if your lucky, but usually idots like you get killed and give the Government an excuse to raise the rego costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LATE RIDER View Post
    exceeding the speed limit can get you paralised if your lucky, but usually idots like you get killed and give the Government an excuse to raise the rego costs.
    What a load of bollocks. Those two things have absolutely nothing to do with arbitrarily set paranoia filled speed limits. It looks like you, like many others, need physics lessons.
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    Speed limit is fine. I actually find it relaxing just cruising around at 50. Not as cool as taking corners though. Half the pricks these days think 35 and 40 is the new 50 when its not. And then glare at me/flash lights when I pass them at oh around 50 km/h - ironically!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    You have a false sense of security if you think you will be safe by never going over the speed limit its just less safer generally speaking depending on where and how much you go over it. There are times also when it is very much safer eg if you are overtaking something as the cost of a speeding ticket is a lot cheaper than a head on for not getting past quick enough. I think there is a statistic that more accidents occur under or at the speed limit than over it.
    The weeks only started and I see this load of rubbish, you think wrong, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know most fatalities or serious injuries on motorbikes are caused by speed deeeeer. Go and read the stats again properly, better still tell me were you THINK you read these rubbish stats your talking about and share it. False sense of security lolz, so the Police don't write out speeding tickets, and take away licenses anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LATE RIDER View Post
    The weeks only started and I see this load of rubbish, you think wrong, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know most fatalities or serious injuries on motorbikes are caused by speed deeeeer. Go and read the stats again properly, better still tell me were you THINK you read these rubbish stats your talking about and share it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FZR250 View Post
    Speed limit is fine. I actually find it relaxing just cruising around at 50. Not as cool as taking corners though. Half the pricks these days think 35 and 40 is the new 50 when its not. And then glare at me/flash lights when I pass them at oh around 50 km/h - ironically!
    I dont often get that problem in Tok

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    Quote Originally Posted by LATE RIDER View Post
    The weeks only started and I see this load of rubbish, you think wrong, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know most fatalities or serious injuries on motorbikes are caused by speed deeeeer. Go and read the stats again properly, better still tell me were you THINK you read these rubbish stats your talking about and share it. False sense of security lolz, so the Police don't write out speeding tickets, and take away licenses anymore.
    Boy, you've really fallen for the lies of ACC and NZTA in a big way. You need to learn some physics. Speed cannot cause an injury, otherwise every astronaut would die two minutes after take-off. What causes the injury is the sudden deceleration.

    Speed in and of itself cannot even cause an accident. Not riding to the conditions, on the other hand, can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LATE RIDER View Post
    The weeks only started and I see this load of rubbish, you think wrong, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know most fatalities or serious injuries on motorbikes are caused by speed deeeeer. Go and read the stats again properly, better still tell me were you THINK you read these rubbish stats your talking about and share it. False sense of security lolz, so the Police don't write out speeding tickets, and take away licenses anymore.
    Speed or Speeding? there is a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    You have a false sense of security if you think you will be safe by never going over the speed limit its just less safer generally speaking depending on where and how much you go over it. There are times also when it is very much safer eg if you are overtaking something as the cost of a speeding ticket is a lot cheaper than a head on for not getting past quick enough. I think there is a statistic that more accidents occur under or at the speed limit than over it.
    False sense in Security, did you not read my full comment, I stated 3 reason, 1st I can't afford to pay fines, 2nd I definately can't afford to lose my license.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LATE RIDER View Post
    exceeding the speed limit can get you paralised if your lucky.
    Two things,

    1) if this were true, we would all be paralysed
    2) being paralysed is not being "lucky"

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    Quote Originally Posted by LATE RIDER View Post
    The weeks only started and I see this load of rubbish, you think wrong, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know most fatalities or serious injuries on motorbikes are caused by speed deeeeer.
    No, I'm sorry - as Mr Clarkson repeats on many occasions - speed never killed anyone ...

    It's the sudden unexpected stop that does it ..
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    Hill starts?

    Aka the speed differential between you, object a, when you come into contact with object b.
    You can in fact be stationary when struck by something else at 100kmph and have the same result as traveling at 200kmph and panic braking for 1.5 seconds before contact. Or strike something at 4000kmph that is traveling in the same direction that is only doing 3999kmph with negligible effect. Your speed cannot on its own kill you. Your speed differential can.


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    Quote Originally Posted by skippa1 View Post
    Two things,

    1) if this were true, we would all be paralysed
    2) being paralysed is not being "lucky"

    Hyosung brain
    Read my comment again, I stated CAN be not will be

    Peanut brain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dog View Post
    Aka the speed differential between you, object a, when you come into contact with object b.
    You can in fact be stationary when struck by something else at 100kmph and have the same result as traveling at 200kmph and panic braking for 1.5 seconds before contact. Or strike something at 4000kmph that is traveling in the same direction that is only doing 3999kmph with negligible effect. Your speed cannot on its own kill you. Your speed differential can.


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    you have to also realise it's not just the rider on the roads, sometimes other vehicles may not judge the speed correctly and cut infront, because the waiting vehicle never realised the rider was gunning it

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