ANOTHER speeding clamp down

**DamianW** · 22nd April 2014, 15:41

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

And if someone with no insurance crashes into you, then you'd be lucky to get paid $20 a week out of their benefit for it. Although your insurance company should be able to take the guilty party to court.

Yes, this is exactly what has happened to my wife. Last year a guy didn't check his blind spot and pulled right out in front of her damaging the cars front wing. He admitted liability and our insurance paid for the repairs to my wife's car. This week and eight months later our insurance company is taking the other driver to court for not paying the repair costs. It seems that he is objecting to the repair bill being higher than he is prepared to pay.

**caseye** · 22nd April 2014, 15:47

Originally Posted by cassina

While this is no guarantee of not getting a ticket I will often wait for a car to pass me doing 120k and then follow them at 120k for a bit. Years ago I was following another biker around a bend over the limit in ChCh and I avoided a ticket thanks to him.

So aye, not only incompetent but happy to admit to letting others take the fall for you, despicable you are.

**James Deuce** · 22nd April 2014, 17:06

Originally Posted by gjm

Hmm. Not sure how you reached (jumped to?) that conclusion, and I think that's the second time you've (incorrectly) assumed you know me. Please don't do that - meet me first, eh?

Seen that long list of justifications about why you should be allowed to drive/ride however you want, been to its funeral. Over it.

**TheDemonLord** · 22nd April 2014, 17:20

Originally Posted by DamianW

It seems odd to me that in NZ you are within the law if you drive/ride 100km/h on a road without speed restrictions - without any insurance; and yet be breaking the law if you drive/ride on the same stretch of road at 120km/h - with full comprehensive cover insurance.

Yes, the legal speed limit is exactly that but driving/riding without insurance(?) I just can't fathom it.

Personally, I don't mind driving/riding without insurance - compare NZ insurance prices to places where 3rd party is compulsory - every time there is a dicussion about whether it should be we see the insurance companies going:

'Oh no, it won't raise premiums at all'

Whilst rubbing their hands with glee and warming up the money printing machines.

**DamianW** · 22nd April 2014, 17:36

Originally Posted by TheDemonLord

Personally, I don't mind driving/riding without insurance - compare NZ insurance prices to places where 3rd party is compulsory - every time there is a dicussion about whether it should be we see the insurance companies going:

'Oh no, it won't raise premiums at all'

Whilst rubbing their hands with glee and warming up the money printing machines.

I agree with your sentiment about the risk of hiking premiums but I think making insurance compulsory would lead to better driving/riding outcomes and improve vehicle road worthiness. On the latter, from memory you can't get a vehicle WOF (MOT) disc in the UK without an insurance policy cover note.

**BoristheBiter** · 22nd April 2014, 17:46

Originally Posted by DamianW

I agree with your sentiment about the risk of hiking premiums but I think making insurance compulsory would lead to better driving/riding outcomes and improve vehicle road worthiness. On the latter, from memory you can't get a vehicle WOF (MOT) disc in the UK without an insurance policy cover note.

Meh, I pay for full comp, makes it the insurance company's problem.

premiums in the UK are basically theft. costs more for 3rd party than most cars.
I'll be fucked if i want that system here.

**mashman** · 22nd April 2014, 18:11

Originally Posted by R650R

Yes. He's just written a great advertisement about why speed matters, lets hope the ltsa doesn't steal it for the next ad.

GJM you've just stated you are constantly surrounded by idiotic bad drivers, the extra speed increases your stopping distance and space to avoid their mistakes.
I like to stretch my legs at times but accept the rules of the game imposed on us and what ever penalty occasionally hit with.
Just think of all the times you don't get caught and speed tickets are quite a cheap fee for freedom of travel...

If you have to pay for it, it isn't freedom.

**bogan** · 22nd April 2014, 18:12

Originally Posted by mashman

If you have to pay for it, it isn't freedom.

Freedom is never free.

**mashman** · 22nd April 2014, 18:14

Originally Posted by bogan

Freedom is never free.

It's always free or you're doing it wrong.

**bogan** · 22nd April 2014, 18:23

Originally Posted by mashman

It's always free or you're doing it wrong.

The price of freedom is death - Malcom X

Speed Kills, Pay up bitches - NZcops*

*some paraphrasing may have been involved

**mashman** · 22nd April 2014, 18:33

Originally Posted by bogan

The price of freedom is death - Malcom X

Speed Kills, Pay up bitches - NZcops*

*some paraphrasing may have been involved

The death of what though? ‘We are free.’ The minute you hear ‘freedom’ and ‘democracy’, watch out… because in a truly free nation, no one has to tell you you’re free.” - Jacque Fresco

bwaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaa... wot, no hi viz?

**bogan** · 22nd April 2014, 18:39

Originally Posted by mashman

The death of what though? ‘We are free.’ The minute you hear ‘freedom’ and ‘democracy’, watch out… because in a truly free nation, no one has to tell you you’re free.” - Jacque Fresco

bwaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaa... wot, no hi viz?

The people wanting the freedom, it's like a hardline quote of Franklin's "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." or the Beastie Boy's "Fight for your right, to party"

nah, you gotta pay extra for that...

**mashman** · 22nd April 2014, 18:43

Originally Posted by bogan

The people wanting the freedom, it's like a hardline quote of Franklin's "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." or the Beastie Boy's "Fight for your right, to party"

nah, you gotta pay extra for that...

So twue... shame there's no form not to sign.

ACC is an organisation that specialises in prevention isn't it?

**DamianW** · 22nd April 2014, 18:55

Originally Posted by BoristheBiter

Meh, I pay for full comp, makes it the insurance company's problem.

premiums in the UK are basically theft. costs more for 3rd party than most cars.
I'll be fucked if i want that system here.

Each to their own but I'd take higher national speed limits over here for compulsory, even higher cost insurance any day of the week. That should get a few more vehicles off the road.

**Tazz** · 22nd April 2014, 21:13

Originally Posted by DamianW

Each to their own but I'd take higher national speed limits over here for compulsory, even higher cost insurance any day of the week. That should get a few more vehicles off the road.

They'll never raise the speed limit here. Ever. I'd bet my full head of hair on it.