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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    Now don't take this the wrong way - but it sounds to me like your 3 years of experience have not really been in figuring out how to ride your bike.
    Knowing its limits, knowing what causes what, seeing how it acts and reacts.

    This is all being part of a rider. You are there for the ride, so you really need to know what your bike is likely to do in situations. Don't be scared to find out what its limits are (which ironically have little to do with speed), in a safe environment.

    As someone eloquently put it too me in the past...
    "30 seconds in a skid pan overwrites 20 years worth on a highway".

    We are all learning - regardless of how long we have been riding.
    +1 for this.

    OP is welcome to come out to Manfeild next track day and find me (or some other helpful person) to give him a few hints and tips.....

    did we ever find out what bike he is riding??

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    ...a roading contractor friend did tell me that the cheaper tar/pitch they use is diabolical stuff...what was a few odd patches in our area have turned into what seems like 20% of the entire highway...I am very surprised these days if I have not had the back step out on the shit, a few times on a ride...just keep on moving forward...if you shit and button off, you are in more shit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    As someone eloquently put it too me in the past...
    "30 seconds in a skid pan overwrites 20 years worth on a highway".
    Aye, a few hours on a dirt bike never did anyone much harm either.


    Well...
    Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dog View Post
    The govt don't pave our roads.
    They supplement the local council and other agencies who manage it.
    Those agencies and local bodies subcontract the work to the best tender. Often they will subcontract as well. Result is one of the roads between home an the motorway was skimmed and reseated last year. And again this year. It was fine a few months ago barring a little over banding. Now it is a rutted mess with lots o chunks missing. And the over banding is still there. And we now have tar bleeding where there was none before.

    Worse? There is about 100m away a 100m section where both tyre tracks are pure tar bleed.


    I miss the Ministry of Works. They might have had a few employees whose main job was to prop up a shovel, on a really busy day count clouds as they lay hidden in the long grass but the road when they were finished was fit for use.

    Being fair to current roadies:
    I could not do a better job.
    Something like 40% more of our roads are paved.
    The govt contribution is significantly lower per km travelled.
    There are more barriers.
    There was only a fraction of the road users in particular, trucks. Largely because govt protections on rail came off at the same time.


    Mayhaps I wear the rose tinted glasses as I gaze upon the yesteryear of my youth?


    Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
    As you pointed out, it all back-tracks to the govt. You are an apologist for incompetence. Who is accountable then . . . . No one ,?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zmlam View Post
    Hi all,

    Just wanted to get some ideas of what happened, as it gave me quite a scare..

    Was driving back in a rainy night a few weeks ago, driving at 100km/hr, straight road (or perhaps a very slight bend), and all of a sudden I feel the back tyre just loose control and it slides to the left and right a few times (maybe by few inches each way). All happened within a second (which felt like a long time), and fortunately I probably didn't have to react to it, and it all came right by itself while I steered straight ahead.

    There is a possibility I could have ridden over something I didn't see, could I have hit some oil slick or something similar - possible?

    Bike serviced a few months ago, both tyres are also brand new during time of service.

    Thanks in advance!
    There is nothing wrong with your riding. You struck the equivalent of ice in the dark. It's the road that was faulty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 400sm View Post
    As you pointed out, it all back-tracks to the govt. You are an apologist for incompetence. Who is accountable then . . . . No one ,?
    Actually, it back tracks to the taxpayer.

    You tight cunt.
    Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon

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    Quote Originally Posted by 400sm View Post
    As you pointed out, it all back-tracks to the govt. You are an apologist for incompetence. Who is accountable then . . . . No one ,?
    Umm...

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dog View Post
    The govt don't pave our roads.
    They supplement the local council and other agencies who manage it.

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    Who is accountable ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Actually, it back tracks to the taxpayer.

    You tight cunt.
    The Govt takes the taxpayers' money.
    The govt is ultimately responsible for our roads.


    ...not quite understanding you, re the "tight" reference.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madness View Post
    Umm...



    Local "council" = Local "GOVERMENT"..... don't you agree.....

    "other agencies" = GOVERMENT agencies.

    ......the roads aint private are they ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by 400sm View Post
    Local "council" = Local "GOVERMENT"..... don't you agree.....

    "other agencies" = GOVERMENT agencies.

    ......the roads aint private are they ???
    Well that's not no-one is it, Einstein? You could always run for public office you know, except you won't as it's easier to just sit back & whinge like a pom with pms.

    Is there a full moon this week? It seems the level of retardation has gone past full-retard of late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 400sm View Post
    The Govt takes the taxpayers' money.
    The govt is ultimately responsible for our roads.


    ...not quite understanding you, re the "tight" reference.....
    Have some numbers: http://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/9...89264185715-en

    Taken with a modicum of intelligence they'll relieve you of the fantasy that we can afford perfect roads.
    Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madness View Post
    Well that's not no-one is it, Einstein? You could always run for public office you know, except you won't as it's easier to just sit back & whinge like a pom with pms.

    Is there a full moon this week? It seems the level of retardation has gone past full-retard of late.
    I have phoned the correct govt officialls many times and pointed out problems with the roads. Most times they were fixed soon after.

    What have you done . . . spoken to the man on the spade ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Have some numbers: http://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/9...89264185715-en

    Taken with a modicum of intelligence they'll relieve you of the fantasy that we can afford perfect roads.
    What's the tight reference mean ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 400sm View Post
    I have phoned the correct govt officialls many times and pointed out problems with the roads. Most times they were fixed soon after.

    What have you done . . . spoken to the man on the spade ?
    So you've phoned the correct government officials many times yet you still had to ask on here who is accountable?

    I've spoken to nobody, I'm not the one here with a problem. Try Tampax, my Mrs. swears by them

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