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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    If you only WOF your bike don't you run the risk of being chased for back registration as they record your odometer reading or do they accept you only rode off road if they ask to explain. The NZTA that is as I am sure the WOF guy would not care.
    You can still WOF a bike that is on hold. I've had cars that went from 95,000km to 1,800km (rolled over a 5 digit odometer), so if the system can't even stomp that sort of mistake out, it seems unlikely they'll get their act together sufficiently to allow revenue chasing through that avenue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    Here's a good proposition for government, stop fining for not having registration - ACC covers medial payments - so if you don't register your vehicle and have a accident no free cover. Push the risk back to the vehicle owner - worth it?
    Perfectly fine... so long as those who have private insurance + medical cover are NOT asked to pay anything toward the gubbinment's system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    My particular policy does void the insurance if its unregistered so not all do then according to you? And no I will not shut up!!
    I presume you mean 'unlicenced' rather than 'unregistered'. Cos if you get pulled over by the Police in an unregistered vehicle you'll probably get more than $100/35. And be required to surrender your plates.

    Now can you please back your shit up with facts and post your insurer's policy.

    State's motorbike policy for example is silent on the WOF or Licence being expired. It does talk about roadworthiness.

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    Grates that 'they' add GST on.....how is rego and a ACC a goods or service.
    If some poor nurse wiping Johnny Biker's arse for him when he's broken both his arms isn't a fucking service, then I don't know what is.

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    Under the Clark Govt a decade back a election promise was to not add any taxes for their term in office. They got in and starting taxing away under the pretense of calling them 'levies' .......

    ACC levy is the term. GST cannot be added on a tax as a tax by nature is not a service (even if the income derived is used to fund services) but a levy ...................

    Tricky buggers those Government types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erelyes View Post

    If some poor nurse wiping Johnny Biker's arse for him when he's broken both his arms isn't a fucking service, then I don't know what is.
    Well ACC don't fucking see it as a service. Its a tax. Do you get a bill with GST added when you go to the hospital?

    Maybe they should charge drunks who turn up ?

    http://www.acc.co.nz/about-acc/levies/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    Well ACC don't fucking see it as a service. Its a tax. Do you get a bill with GST added when you go to the hospital? http://www.acc.co.nz/about-acc/levies/
    If it's a private hospital ... sure!
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    User pays....?

    I wish.

    I wish I had a choice..

    acc or private insurance

    I be a bloody good risk

    and would save a small fortune

    pay for abuser more like it
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    Quote Originally Posted by awayatc View Post
    User pays....?

    I wish.

    I wish I had a choice..

    acc or private insurance

    I be a bloody good risk

    and would save a small fortune

    pay for abuser more like it
    its like haiku

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    i trust that the leaders i elect will make the correct economic decisions for the benefit of all. If, in their omnipotency, they have decided that motorcycle licensing should not be separate from ACC levy,
    suck it up you gullible fucking morons.

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    for whatever its worth
    was riding along extremely well restrained,
    cop tagged along behind me,
    electronic gizzmos told him rego was out,
    christmas lights came on,
    and voila 1 more happy cop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    i trust that the leaders i elect will make the correct economic decisions .
    you trust the leaders you elect............?

    that is so wrong on so many levels

    funny though
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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    My particular policy does void the insurance if its unregistered so not all do then according to you?
    You cannot void a policy or deny a claim because the registration is expired and even if it is written in your policy; it is illegal to do so under Section 11 of the Insurance Law Reform Act 1977.

    the insured shall not be disentitled to be indemnified by the insurer by reason only of such provisions of the contract of insurance if the insured proves on the balance of probability that the loss in respect of which the insured seeks to be indemnified was not caused or contributed to by the happening of such events or the existence of such circumstances.

    An expired registration alone cannot cause or contribute to a loss so the exclusion would not stand up if challenged. I have never encountered such an exclusion and it would be a very amateurishly written policy wording that included such a noob mistake. You sure you haven't confused it with road-worthiness?

    Now this is different to misstatements made; or information withheld when taking out a policy but that is a different story and is about forming of the insurance contract itself.... but I can't be bothered getting into that right now haha.

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    For those of you that don't rego your bikes, be aware that the police are using auto plate recognition camera's in their cars these days that are programmed to alert the poppo that the plate is not rego'd

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    Quote Originally Posted by awayatc View Post
    User pays....?
    I don't think it works like that... The crazy arse cyclists that get injured don't pay acc levies, neither do the social sports players, the hikers, the boaties etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    If you only WOF your bike don't you run the risk of being chased for back registration as they record your odometer reading or do they accept you only rode off road if they ask to explain. The NZTA that is as I am sure the WOF guy would not care.
    You'll only be chased for outstanding rego if you don't register your bike off road. But be aware of the auto plate recognition camera's in police cars.

    Also if you don't register the vehicle off road (or register it as a farm vehicle) then your registration will lapse after a year resulting in the vehicle needing to be complied to be able to be re-registered again, which can be expensive and will reduce the resale value of the bike.

    sent from my phone (so scuze auto correct typos)
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