Moto3

[richban]

I would not think so, but could do, could do....

It would be close for sure. Aren't they usually about 10 seconds down on the Motogp bikes?

[steveyb]

Mugello:
Marquez 1,47.89 173.8 kph avg
Rabat 1.52.59, 166.1 kph avg
Fenati 1,58.23 158.2 kph avg

Argentina:
Pedrosa 1'39.233 174.3 Km/h
SALOM 1'44.011 166.3 Km/h
MARQUEZ 1'49.109 158.5 Km/h

Do we have a similar spread in NZ?
E.G. Manfeild; lap record for 125 is 1.13.5 (i.e. 73s, what are Superbike and Supersport? 68s and 65s or something like that?

[Maido]

Mugello:
Marquez 1,47.89 173.8 kph avg
Rabat 1.52.59, 166.1 kph avg
Fenati 1,58.23 158.2 kph avg

Argentina:
Pedrosa 1'39.233 174.3 Km/h
SALOM 1'44.011 166.3 Km/h
MARQUEZ 1'49.109 158.5 Km/h

Do we have a similar spread in NZ?
E.G. Manfeild; lap record for 125 is 1.13.5 (i.e. 73s, what are Superbike and Supersport? 68s and 65s or something like that?

Jake Lewis (3rd in NZSBK 600SP) at Assen on Superstock 600 1.43.2 (fastest lap of the qualifying was 1.40.8)
Fastest moto3 lap in Assen 2013 1.43.4

keep in mind I took Jake's time from qualifying as the race was wet. I imagine race pace would be 0.2-0.5 quicker as a guess.

I think our tight tracks would be better suited to the 600's though instead of moto 3 bikes that are made to run on billiard tables.

[Shaun Harris]

Jake Lewis (3rd in NZSBK 600SP) at Assen on Superstock 600 1.43.2 (fastest lap of the qualifying was 1.40.8)
Fastest moto3 lap in Assen 2013 1.43.4

keep in mind I took Jake's time from qualifying as the race was wet. I imagine race pace would be 0.2-0.5 quicker as a guess.

I think our tight tracks would be better suited to the 600's though instead of moto 3 bikes that are made to run on billiard tables.

Moto3 bikes are just a dream world for the NZ Race scene, they will never take off here.

[richban]

Mugello:
Marquez 1,47.89 173.8 kph avg
Rabat 1.52.59, 166.1 kph avg
Fenati 1,58.23 158.2 kph avg

Argentina:
Pedrosa 1'39.233 174.3 Km/h
SALOM 1'44.011 166.3 Km/h
MARQUEZ 1'49.109 158.5 Km/h

Do we have a similar spread in NZ?
E.G. Manfeild; lap record for 125 is 1.13.5 (i.e. 73s, what are Superbike and Supersport? 68s and 65s or something like that?

Rather impressive really. 125GP and Moto3 have always been my favourite class. 250's was next. Its shaping up to be a great season for moto3. Miller needs to keep his head I reckon. Its all on now.

[haydes55]

Rather impressive really. 125GP and Moto3 have always been my favourite class. 250's was next. Its shaping up to be a great season for moto3. Miller needs to keep his head I reckon. Its all on now.

I feel sorry for Miller, racing accident. There's not much anyone could have done differently. No one was giving up the line, and that many bikes that close means you can't listen for where a competitor is.

[richban]

I feel sorry for Miller, racing accident. There's not much anyone could have done differently. No one was giving up the line, and that many bikes that close means you can't listen for where a competitor is.

I think it was his fault. He new he had to make a move or he was fucked. He bombed in from way back to hit an apex 2 or 3 guys were aways going to hit. Good try but no go. Got to love the confidence.

[Shaun Harris]

I think it was his fault. He new he had to make a move or he was fucked. He bombed in from way back to hit an apex 2 or 3 guys were aways going to hit. Good try but no go. Got to love the confidence.

Pure Pucker Kiwi/Aussie fighter mentallity

[badlieutenant]

yer, it looked to my untrained eye that millar hoped to be somewhere around 3rd or fourth coming onto the straight? , but it went ugly for him and he ended up mixed up at the back. Bummer he took out AM as well :/ did race direction do any thing after their "investigation" ? I hope not. Looked like a ballsy move that if it had worked would have been epic.

[Mattr]

How do we get 10 + 125gp bikes back up and circulating in the club scene again? There must be quite a few just sitting around in garages that should be used ? The reason MX is so popular is that you can purchase race bikes for low cost, 125 club racing must fit into this bracket?

[scott411]

How do we get 10 + 125gp bikes back up and circulating in the club scene again? There must be quite a few just sitting around in garages that should be used ? The reason MX is so popular is that you can purchase race bikes for low cost, 125 club racing must fit into this bracket?

there is many more reasons why MX is so popular,
you can use the bike for any trail ride, or any free ride session with your mates,
a club day sign on is usually under $30,
you get a minimum of 3 10 minute plus a lap races, rather than sometimes 3 6-8 lap races,

GP bikes take a fair bit of setup, and prep, Kiwi's dont seem to like that,

edit: tyres cost under $250 a set, and last for months,

[BoristheBiter]

there is many more reasons why MX is so popular,
you can use the bike for any trail ride, or any free ride session with your mates,
a club day sign on is usually under $30,
you get a minimum of 3 10 minute plus a lap races, rather than sometimes 3 6-8 lap races,

GP bikes take a fair bit of setup, and prep, Kiwi's dont seem to like that,

edit: tyres cost under $250 a set, and last for months,

And most of us dirt bikers aren't that airodynamic.

[oyster]

How do we get 10 + 125gp bikes back up and circulating in the club scene again? There must be quite a few just sitting around in garages that should be used ? The reason MX is so popular is that you can purchase race bikes for low cost, 125 club racing must fit into this bracket?

That's easy. Clubs just need to adopt the proven principles of all sport development.
Promote, recruit and train youth through feeder classes such as Young Junior Road Race and Streetstock. Canterbury is the only club that's done it, and the results are obvious.
Imagine if every club around NZ committed to the same process, and yeilded the same results. You'd have healthy feilds and good depth.

[richban]

Imagine if every club around NZ committed to the same process, and yeilded the same results. You'd have healthy feilds and good depth.

Ever heard of that little club in the north. The Vic club I think its called.

[Ntoxcated]

yer, it looked to my untrained eye that millar hoped to be somewhere around 3rd or fourth coming onto the straight? , but it went ugly for him and he ended up mixed up at the back. Bummer he took out AM as well :/ did race direction do any thing after their "investigation" ? I hope not. Looked like a ballsy move that if it had worked would have been epic.

He was awarded 2 penalty points