Moto3

[badlieutenant]

He was awarded 2 penalty points

He doesn't come across as whinger like Casey (which is most likely a media thing)
He had a good point ->> "If you see a gap, you go for it. If you don't do that, then what the hell are you doing out there? I'm here to win races."

[Billy]

Ever heard of that little club in the north. The Vic club I think its called.

Yeah,

What about it?Do they regularly have 30 upwards in their development class?MCI do and have done for a number of years now since Oyster set up their junior development,Do they allow extra track time and coaching for their juniors on race day? Again,MCI do,Yip its easier for them to get access to their track,BUT they also make Waaay better use of the time they have,Have a look at the results from the recent NZSBK series,They speak for themselves as they have done for some years now.

They have a huge talent pool that is a direct result of Oysters initiative,You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know the future is in the youngsters,NOT the 30-50 year olds.If theres anybody in the North Island promoting entry level for the younger competitors,Its Hyosung NZ and thats not a patch on what MCI contribute.

[oyster]

Ever heard of that little club in the north. The Vic club I think its called.

Does this club run a junior age group series? Does it run a dedicated training/induction class, with coaches on the the track with a 3 to 1 ratio or better? Does it have streetstock (development) racing with 30 on the grid, 20 under 17 years old? Does it promote and run Young Junior Road Race? Does it regularly run articles in national magazines dedicated to this activity? does it have an elected club roles Committee, Junior Rep, and Junior RR coordinator? Does it actively contact young riders around the country to host them at their meetings, with bikes, gear, coaching and accomodation/transport supplied? Maybe yes to some of these, great to see the "scrutineering shed" base for some of this lately. But what I've described is the Canterbury model, running and successfull at least 6 years ago.
Yes, I've heard of the Vic Club, they are the "best of the rest". They have had the intent for sure, but have shunned the basic principles (I've described above) and the (lack of) results show it. How many young Vic riders have acheived National titles without the benefit of travelling south to be hosted, supported and coached by the south?

[Shaun Harris]

The VIC club is great for what they do. But Ch CH has really created the future path for young riders, and them alone really. A certain man needs naming and thanking, but that was not what he got involved for, so a huge thanks go out to all involved in the creative productive production line coming out of the Sth Island

[quickbuck]

Does this club run a junior age group series? Does it run a dedicated training/induction class, with coaches on the the track with a 3 to 1 ratio or better? Does it have streetstock (development) racing with 30 on the grid, 20 under 17 years old? Does it promote and run Young Junior Road Race? Does it regularly run articles in national magazines dedicated to this activity? does it have an elected club roles Committee, Junior Rep, and Junior RR coordinator? Does it actively contact young riders around the country to host them at their meetings, with bikes, gear, coaching and accomodation/transport supplied? Maybe yes to some of these, great to see the "scrutineering shed" base for some of this lately. But what I've described is the Canterbury model, running and successfull at least 6 years ago.

Yes, I've heard of the Vic Club, they are the "best of the rest". They have had the intent for sure, but have shunned the basic principles (I've described above) and the (lack of) results show it. How many young Vic riders have acheived National titles without the benefit of travelling south to be hosted, supported and coached by the south?

Um, no, yes, yes, no, getting there, did I get them in the right order??
Actually Oyster, I have seen your good work in action right in front of me.... As in I went from being one of the fastest in the club on a 250 to struggle to be top 10 Nationals within a few months!
Shun the principles you say? Can't say I have ever done that as I was never on the committee........
I have changed that.
I also believe what the development mentors are doing this winter is a huge step in the right direction for us......

Long story short, I want to see some of the silverware remain in these parts after next nationals and will do anything in my power to help it happen...... Actually, we were pretty close with 125Gp...









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[mr bucketracer]

just go bucket racing anyway can i run a 250 4 in the 125-250 class will be like the 1960s and the year 2000 put together

[richban]

Does this club run a junior age group series? Does it run a dedicated training/induction class, with coaches on the the track with a 3 to 1 ratio or better? Does it have streetstock (development) racing with 30 on the grid, 20 under 17 years old? Does it promote and run Young Junior Road Race? Does it regularly run articles in national magazines dedicated to this activity? does it have an elected club roles Committee, Junior Rep, and Junior RR coordinator? Does it actively contact young riders around the country to host them at their meetings, with bikes, gear, coaching and accomodation/transport supplied? Maybe yes to some of these, great to see the "scrutineering shed" base for some of this lately. But what I've described is the Canterbury model, running and successfull at least 6 years ago.
Yes, I've heard of the Vic Club, they are the "best of the rest". They have had the intent for sure, but have shunned the basic principles (I've described above) and the (lack of) results show it. How many young Vic riders have acheived National titles without the benefit of travelling south to be hosted, supported and coached by the south?

Boom. Yeah for sure, Amazing support and there are people giving heaps of time to the young ones down south. I have seen the results and have had the pleasure of racing with some of them over the years. It got me inspired to do more myself. Haven't done anything yet, but I will when I can. From what I have heard Vic are stepping it up for the young ones. Not sure about the us and them titles comment. Hamish M walked out of wellington buckets and won Protwin first crack. There are lost of people with hearts in the right place.

[oyster]

Good on Quickbuck and Richban. Mature comment and a desire get it going in the right direction. It will happen. The breakthough in Canterbury was when the senior club leadership said "yes, this is important and we will achieve our targets". No different to a business. Strategy, hard work and commitment leading to good results a few years later.

[Bert]

Does this club run a junior age group series? Does it run a dedicated training/induction class, with coaches on the the track with a 3 to 1 ratio or better? Does it have streetstock (development) racing with 30 on the grid, 20 under 17 years old? Does it promote and run Young Junior Road Race? Does it regularly run articles in national magazines dedicated to this activity? does it have an elected club roles Committee, Junior Rep, and Junior RR coordinator? Does it actively contact young riders around the country to host them at their meetings, with bikes, gear, coaching and accomodation/transport supplied? Maybe yes to some of these, great to see the "scrutineering shed" base for some of this lately. But what I've described is the Canterbury model, running and successfull at least 6 years ago.
Yes, I've heard of the Vic Club, they are the "best of the rest". They have had the intent for sure, but have shunned the basic principles (I've described above) and the (lack of) results show it. How many young Vic riders have acheived National titles without the benefit of travelling south to be hosted, supported and coached by the south?

I 100% agree with most of your comments on this topic thus far.
VIC has taken a good look at your program with the view of heading in the same direction (maybe we need to communicate between clubs a little more, taking the your experiences as a blue print). I think we all agree that the future is young riders; but the mechanisms for getting them involved is desperately needed through all clubs).
It's a little rough making comments like "shunned basic principles" in the public arena though...

There has been a total refocus on development of all new and junior riders (this year).
But as you know nothing happens over night nor hard to get traction with limited funds.
Getting a strong supportive group involved in the development is key for VIC and hopefully we will start seeing results and more successful junior riders.

[Shaun Harris]

I 100% agree with most of your comments on this topic thus far.
VIC has taken a good look at your program with the view of heading in the same direction (maybe we need to communicate between clubs a little more). It's a little rough making comments like "shunned basic principles" in the public arena though...

There has been a total refocus on development of all new and junior riders (this year).
But as you know nothing happens over night nor hard to get traction with limited funds.
Getting a strong supportive group involved in the development is key for VIC and hopefully we will start seeing results and more successful junior riders.

" I will " do anything required of me that I can do to support the VIC Club if they are heading in the direction that the sth island has gone to help develop youth!

[Bert]

" I will " do anything required of me that I can do to support the VIC Club if they are heading in the direction that the sth island has gone to help develop youth!

That's cool Sean and more than welcome to get involved as per previous invites this year.

[Shaun Harris]

That's cool Sean and more than welcome to get involved as per previous invites this year.

"Shaun" thanks Bert haha. If some one has a plan and wants me involved, email me please as I am not waisting a lot of money on fuel and family time to come down there to stand around all day talking shit though.

[Bert]

"Shaun" thanks Bert haha. If some one has a plan and wants me involved, email me please as I am not waisting a lot of money on fuel and family time to come down there to stand around all day talking shit though.

Ops Shaun..
Total agree, having a solid plan for everyone is critical.
All of us are do it at a cost to our own personal time. But all those currently involved share the vision of making things better and that's a massive step forward.

[Shaun Harris]

Ops Shaun..
Total agree, having a solid plan for everyone is critical.
All of us are do it at a cost to our own personal time. But all those currently involved share the vision of making things better and that's a massive step forward.

haha sure is Bert. I have NO spare money to waste at all hence my comment mate, and have already given enough of what I had in the past away for others to go forward. Time Fuel is fine, as long as there an agreed working programme for all involved.

[Brian d marge]

Just started working with hrc moto3 engine guy
Met him for first time last week
Lets see how much info he gives up hahhaaaa

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