Straightening the road

[george formby]

huh?

lots of people seem to think you talk crap, I don't know, but it takes a special kind of special to sound like you are arguing with someone who has just made the point you are trying to make.

Special kind of special. Post of the evening. Ta.

[unstuck]

Special kind of special. Post of the evening. Ta.

LOL, yep, thats a goodun.

[scumdog]

There in lies the perception problem. Crossing the center line with clear visibility is not the same as cutting a blind corner. If done properly with a firm knowledge that there is no danger then what's the harm?

I would hazard a guess that most people who perpetrated a head-on collision had a 'firm knowledge' there was no danger when they commenced the their tragic mannouevre, the corner would not have been 'blind' in their estimation.

[scumdog]

huh?

lots of people seem to think you talk crap, I don't know, but it takes a special kind of special to sound like you are arguing with someone who has just made the point you are trying to make.

My brain is hurting.

A lot.

[george formby]

My brain is hurting.

A lot.

I had to read it threes times.

[R650R]

Another time I overtook on a tighter left hand corner whilst riding in a group. A very experienced and safe rider was ahead of me. He overtook safely and stayed about 50m ahead of me holding even pace in the opposite lane, I knew he could see further around the corner and stayed in the oncoming lane to signify it was clear to overtake.

Never rely on someone elses position/signals or word that its clear to be out there.
A mate of mine overtook a car on blind corner on SH5 Tirau to Rotovegas in truck after truck ahead told him on CB it was clear.
Fractions of a second later he cancelled the all clear after mate already commited...
Result - oncoming car confronted by truck at 100 +100, panics and 360s into ditch, no direct collision. Lucky for him he only lost his job over it and cops gave him weak $150 fine.
But if ended in tragedy guess who the one in court will be.
There's so many things to be caught out by when taking shortcuts overtaking, its too easy to lose sight of an oncoming car behind a tree of bush etc...
Then there's the risk of several *555 stasi phoning you in and its goodbye license or expensive court case at the least...
People tend to freak out before you will and brake closing any gap you intended to pull back into also...

[swbarnett]

I would hazard a guess that most people who perpetrated a head-on collision had a 'firm knowledge' there was no danger when they commenced the their tragic mannouevre, the corner would not have been 'blind' in their estimation.

It's thinking like that that makes me wonder how anybody ever gets anywhere.

Apply that to some legal manoeuvres and we'd never set tyre to road.

[nzspokes]

Check out about 1.50 in this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=23rs2krvrxE

And crossing the line in a corner?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNfFL...yer_detailpage

[ducatilover]

That guy on the 848 certainly couldn't ride very well


And all you fullas is pussies ow.

[ellipsis]

That guy on the 848 certainly couldn't ride very well

...there's a lot of it about...toys and mindsets are cheap...

[Drew]

There are countless fail compilations, consisting of nothing but that one corner where the Ducati went down.

[eldog]

Maybe stlightly off topic.

I hate meeting oncoming vehicles on my side of the road, by those talentless steerers crossing the centre line on blind corners and overtaking on blind hills.

Have often followed these morons, and for a few years travelled the Franklin Area each day would see at least 1 or 2 doing some of the above. Then watch the face of panic when they realise that they are in the wrong place!

From the above experiences I try not to be close to the centre line unless I can see a long way ahead.
I am being 'trained' by an IAM member who does ride to the edge of the lane, but reminds you that 'Safety' is paramount, and if it isn't safe to do so then stay clear of edges of the lanes. The left hand edge can also be difficult in the rural areas and when new chip seal has been laid with loose stones causing loss of traction.

I have used the other side of the lane to overtake or move around another obstacle when I have made sure it is safe to do so.

[nzspokes]

There are countless fail compilations, consisting of nothing but that one corner where the Ducati went down.

Well yes, but that give us the ability to get vids of all kinds on muppetry to use to prove a point.

[ducatilover]

There are countless fail compilations, consisting of nothing but that one corner where the Ducati went down.

There are a few vids of that road being well ridden, Mulholland drive in CA. Pretty cool bit of road, if it wasn't coated in squidjuice


Looks like a place I'd go and flip one of mine

[eldog]

So from what you have said then it is really safer and more relaxing to ride in the middle of the lane? I would far rather just have to focus on where I am going and what other traffic is doing than add on having to play dodgem with gravel and broken seal at the edge of the road as well. Mind you though in ChCh we occasionally have to play dodgem with gravel and pot holes in the centre of the road too.

I am trying to get more skilled at riding everywhere, even at the edges of the lane, but I ride to the conditions and I am aware of what I can expect to appear on the roads that I ride. I know my life and ride is upto ME to ride the best I can and wear good gear etc although I could be taken out by any event etc I have underestimated.
Yeah I know BORING AS. FYI - Eventually want to Tour NZ and do some Long Distance rides, NZ is such a good place to tour