Evidential contrast leading to frustration

[HenryDorsetCase]

Steve Fitzgerald. Legend, gentleman and visionary, actually.

Thats it. I think he was killed in the same kind of accident that that poor student nurse was killed in on Lincoln Rd... A left turning truck? Awful way to go:. I am going to be shot in the back by Mr Akzle, aged 90 whilst rogering his Mrs :-)

[swbarnett]

23% of the Police funding comes from the Land Transport Fund

This is the real problem.

If all of the police funding came from the same pool then you wouldn't be committed to spending 23% of your budget on road policing and would be free to set other priorities.

[Drew]

This is the real problem.

If all of the police funding came from the same pool then you wouldn't be committed to spending 23% of your budget on road policing and would be free to set other priorities.

That's one way to look at it.

Another might be to consider, that perhaps the funding is just too low. That with the resources at hand, the police can't do everything that they could.

[R650R]

This is the real problem.

If all of the police funding came from the same pool then you wouldn't be committed to spending 23% of your budget on road policing and would be free to set other priorities.

No the real problem is our political system and the lack of will to deal with issues by the politicians.
Police do a pretty stunning job most of the time catching crooks and idiots but the revolving door justice system and lack of jail space sees them released straight away.
Then there is the growing issue of youth crime where through the media they even advertise to them that they can offend with zero consequence, hence why we have 12 year old stabbing dairy owner.
We could build more prisons easy and lower age of criminal responsibility but no govt want the political embarrassment of jailing so many people.

[rastuscat]

This is the real problem.

If all of the police funding came from the same pool then you wouldn't be committed to spending 23% of your budget on road policing and would be free to set other priorities.

And the Police budget would drop by 23%. The gubbermint is hardly going to give money to the Police for stuff they don't do.

[rastuscat]

23% of the funding comes from the Land Transport Fund.

Perhaps the argument to have is that the rest of the Police aren't funded sufficiently.

Interesting. We have a sinking lid policy. Nil increase in total funding over at least the last 3 years, maybe 5. So anything extra we do has to take dosh from something else we do.

[Akzle]

And the Police budget would drop by 23%. The gubbermint is hardly going to give money to the Police for stuff they don't do.

good point.

what the fuck do the police achieve?

[HenryDorsetCase]

23% of the funding comes from the Land Transport Fund.

Perhaps the argument to have is that the rest of the Police aren't funded sufficiently.

Interesting. We have a sinking lid policy. Nil increase in total funding over at least the last 3 years, maybe 5. So anything extra we do has to take dosh from something else we do.

so clearly the way forward is for us all to become anarcho-terrorist al quaeda sympathisers wanting to learn how to take off (but not alnd) a plane because:

a) pleece resources would be diverted to deal with anarcho terrorists leaving us free to do what we want on the roads and
b) the GCSB could stop intensively surveiling Mr Akzle and earn some of the undisclosed money they get from the NSA and Dick Cheney.

Its a win-win. I should do this shit for a living.

[rastuscat]

good point.

what the fuck do the police achieve?

We wind you up. That's gotta be worth doing. Public service right there.

[The Pastor]

There's nothing to sort out. It's against the Land Transport (Road User) Rule 2004 for a moped or motorcycle to ride in a special vehicle lane designated for cycles.

Just coz so many cops do nothing about it doesn't make it legal.

Thanks Rastuscat, that's the info i was looking for.

Will keep and eye out for the 5-0 when i use cycle lanes from now on.

[Big Dog]

Thanks Rastuscat, that's the info i was looking for.

Will keep and eye out for the 5-0 when i use cycle lanes from now on.

Or just not use them?
They are dangerous enough with all the pinch points and cars thinking that nothing faster than 30kmph is coming. Add in the debris that tends to build up an the fact that they are made for a vehicle that is about 6 inches narrower than your motorcycle.

The inherent safety for the cyclist is supposed to be that the general flow of traffic is going faster than them so can see them clearly as they approach. Not so if you are moving faster than the traffic.

Even on a push bike if I find I am going faster than the traffic by more than 20 kms I slow down, or if it is safer hit the right hand side of the lane instead.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Akzle]

just because the police do/enforce it, doesn't make it legal, and certainly not lawful.

[swbarnett]

That's one way to look at it.

Another might be to consider, that perhaps the funding is just too low. That with the resources at hand, the police can't do everything that they could.

Or one might say that the police funding is too high. There is a theory that the crime rate is at the level it is because the government (of which the police is the enforcement arm) poke it's nose far too much in to people's private lives.

[HenryDorsetCase]

just because the police do/enforce it, doesn't make it legal, and certainly not lawful.

How does that go when you front up to the judge and run that defence?

Please let me know for next time so I can watch from the public gallery

[Ocean1]

The gubbermint is hardly going to give money to the Police for stuff they don't do.

Why not?

They give fucking near everyone else money for doing fuck all.