Ocean floor mining

[Shadowjack]

Very well done. Ripley. Believe it or not.

Something to lighten the ambience - s'been a busy and nerve-wracking day here in Churchur -
Time for a Scotch....

[awa355]

Godzilla?
Big yellow materiel handling machinery, you say?

"Get away from her, you bitch!'

Dunno about big yellow diggers?? More like the Mexican draglines of old.

[george formby]

Seriously for a minute - just glancing thru the thread, am I right in seeing that the places this is planned to happen are smaller nations with GDP's less than a smallish multinational legal firm, thus allowing for experimentation with the process, with little blowback for cock-ups?

I kind of read it like that, too. Bit like the Japanese destroying Pacific island fisheries in return for a hospital & couple of schools. They're not going to replace the fish the people depend on for protein.
Out of sight, out of mind.

I have no doubt that this industry will surge forward in our lifetimes. Manganese & Iron is one thing, what would be the consequences of ocean floor Uranium mining?
Glow in the dark fish suppers.

[puddytat]

Don't worry, Shame Jones has got the job off looking after small Pacific Islands fi$hing ground$ & intere$t$

[george formby]

Don't worry, Shame Jones has got the job off looking after small Pacific Islands fi$hing ground$ & intere$t$

I'm putting in a trout & yabbie pond. No worries here.

I thought the tugger had resigned & was off the books?

[puddytat]

Doing this.....

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11263877

[george formby]

Doing this.....

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11263877

Crikey! What a nice job. No responsibility, lots of money coming through, plenty of big feeds & nice places to visit for free.

I bet he danced on the stereo, with his Honorable Member exposed, the night he heard the news.

[Winston001]

Seriously for a minute - just glancing thru the thread, am I right in seeing that the places this is planned to happen are smaller nations with GDP's less than a smallish multinational legal firm, thus allowing for experimentation with the process, with little blowback for cock-ups?

I kind of read it like that, too. Bit like the Japanese destroying Pacific island fisheries in return for a hospital & couple of schools.

Occurred to me too but maybe we are overthinking it.

Islands have tiny land areas but by contrast have enormous Exclusive Economic Zones.

For example New Zealand (which is just a set of biggish islands) has the 9th largest EEZ in the world. But how about virtually unknown Kiribati - 14th largest EEZ in the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusi...nkings_by_area

I have no doubt that this industry will surge forward in our lifetimes. Manganese & Iron is one thing, what would be the consequences of ocean floor Uranium mining?
Glow in the dark fish suppers.

Relax. Our mates across the ditch have more uranium on land than any other country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...anium_reserves

[Robert Taylor]

oh bobby! I appreciate the ironing.
Ill bling you tomorow if im not too stoned
but i have a far, far greater grasp of the situation than you.

I'll do it for free. Just vote green OK? lol

When hell freezes over, not even then

[Robert Taylor]

lol, I don't have you pegged that way. Oh really? I don't condemn those that you deem unworthy, I accept that they exist and always will. The main reason I question your assertion that most would condemn it, is that that situation currently exists. Yes people are getting pissed off with it, but not at the rate of those who are starting to see the financial system for what it is and the travesty that it facilitates. Once you've asked the other 4.x million other in NZ, then you can clam most.

It rewards everyone irrespective of effort. Would you quit doing suspension just because you could? You don't enjoy it at all? @toxic socialist mindset... I don't see the point in letting the existence "lazy" people dictate the pace of our economic evolution, amongst other things.

I accept that the financial system we have is far from perfect, I also accept that things like fat bonuses for already highly overpaid CEOs etc is just not right. It all needs a thorough shakeup and injection of fairness, but certainly not wholesale replacement.

Everyone should pull their weight, that is my main point.

[mashman]

I accept that the financial system we have is far from perfect, I also accept that things like fat bonuses for already highly overpaid CEOs etc is just not right. It all needs a thorough shakeup and injection of fairness, but certainly not wholesale replacement.

Everyone should pull their weight, that is my main point.

Fair enough... I see nothing more than a wholesale replacement addressing the issues that society has. Take seabed mining, what are the minerals going to be used for? Not to put a too finer point on it, it's to make money. The end product is not a consideration and given half of the crap that has and is being produced, I still don't see that consideration being applied. That consideration isn't only the end result, it also covers how things are designed and built etc... we live in a throw away culture and that allows for tragedy beyond compare. It's all about the economy, not really about what's needed and certainly limited thought goes into the production of stuff because it's too expensive to perform proper R&D. A wholesale replacement isn't a cure, but it would allow for that which the financial system currently constrains.

I agree that everyone should pull their weight, but not everyone will and it's a poor excuse given that the "lazy" are a tiny percentage of the population... so again, I don't see the point in letting the existence of "lazy" people dictate the pace of our economic evolution... something that the financial system is unable to cope with.

[oldrider]

Fair enough... I see nothing more than a wholesale replacement addressing the issues that society has. Take seabed mining, what are the minerals going to be used for? Not to put a too finer point on it, it's to make money. The end product is not a consideration and given half of the crap that has and is being produced, I still don't see that consideration being applied. That consideration isn't only the end result, it also covers how things are designed and built etc... we live in a throw away culture and that allows for tragedy beyond compare. It's all about the economy, not really about what's needed and certainly limited thought goes into the production of stuff because it's too expensive to perform proper R&D. A wholesale replacement isn't a cure, but it would allow for that which the financial system currently constrains.

I agree that everyone should pull their weight, but not everyone will and it's a poor excuse given that the "lazy" are a tiny percentage of the population... so again, I don't see the point in letting the existence of "lazy" people dictate the pace of our economic evolution... something that the financial system is unable to cope with.

If lazy people want to be "lazy" that is their business - their choice - as long as the rewards they receive are equivalent!

I.E. not stolen from others and inflated into a "living wage" equalling benefit!

The sole aim of production is consumption!

A financial systems sole aim should be to assist production and consumption of goods and services to happen! ... Nothing else!

[mashman]

If lazy people want to be "lazy" that is their business - their choice - as long as the rewards they receive are equivalent!

I.E. not stolen from others and inflated into a "living wage" equalling benefit!

The sole aim of production is consumption!

A financial systems sole aim should be to assist production and consumption of goods and services to happen! ... Nothing else!

lol, there is no choice but to support the "lazy", it's what benefits etc... are for. Who decides who is "lazy" is another thing entirely and I still giggle when it's claimed that the "lazy" provide nothing to the economy, coz they do, they put all of their money back into the economy. That the "lazy" punish the rest of society for their lack of production is small biccies given the number of people who claim assistance from the govt because they are paid shit wages... which too leads to the low paid worker being denigrated by the entitlement complex brigade, but also is a display of supreme ignorance given the position (financial) of those who are required to do that work. Pay better or shut the fuck up would be my advice .

At the moment I agree although it shouldn't be, it should be to serve a purpose.

It should, but it doesn't, it never has... primarily due to the white muthafuckas bringing in some form of warped tiering system to measure output. Fortunately for said white muthafuckas, the country is full of ignorant attitudes and the financial systems gets to weave its magic.

[puddytat]

Well that's cool......they've been declined consent due to environmental concerns.

[bogan]

Well that's cool......they've been declined consent due to environmental concerns.

Neat! Almost enough to make you think the system works...