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    Quote Originally Posted by Urano View Post
    you're saying tha... oh sorry...

    YOU'RE SAYING THAT DESPITE YEARS OF MOTORBIKE RIDING AND WORK IN NOISY ENVIRONMENT YOUR HEARING IS BETTER THAN THE AVERAGE?

    well, good for you. if i were you i'd go to the nearest university and offer myself as an interest case study.

    now you understand that (given your case is still applicable considering requirements, levels and frequency of test, correctness of data, procedure and equipment) this could only been considered as a personal experience of no statistic value, right?
    it's the ancient, rusty problem of the "old pal" everybody has that has crashed wearing nothing more than a t-shirt, had not even a scratch and now is claiming that atgatt is for morons...

    so, if want to give us something useful simply repeat your test twice again, then build up a statistic graph of measurements.
    then find out another bunch of guys with a similar story (at least 150-200. better 500. 1000 would be great.) test them three times and make similar graphs. then correct the data for age, gender, race, place, and anthropometric differences and come back here tellin us your findings.
    it would be awesome.



    while we wait we'll stick to others that have done all these stuff before you, and whose results are, as i said, worth of attention.

    http://www.isvr.co.uk/at_work/m_cycle.htm

    this is something newer:
    http://www.cieh.org/jehr/hearing_los...rcyclists.html

    and the cost327:
    http://ec.europa.eu/transport/roadsa...nal_report.pdf

    and here i report a screenshot (for the lazy ones...) of page 220-221 chapter 8:
    Attachment 298109
    Sorry, but all of that ^^^^^ that just makes you look like an arrogant, anorak wearing pillock to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unstuck View Post
    Sorry, but all of that ^^^^^ that just makes you look like an arrogant, anorak wearing pillock to me.
    sorry about that.
    i've tried only to give you some info to preserve your health based on standardized data and not personal opinions (as respectable as they are).
    you're obviously free to give it the consideration you want...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urano View Post
    sorry about that.
    i've tried only to give you some info to preserve your health based on standardized data and not personal opinions (as respectable as they are).
    you're obviously free to give it the consideration you want...
    Sure, but you do not need to be a pillock about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urano View Post
    you're saying tha... oh sorry...

    YOU'RE SAYING THAT DESPITE YEARS OF MOTORBIKE RIDING AND WORK IN NOISY ENVIRONMENT YOUR HEARING IS BETTER THAN THE AVERAGE?

    well, good for you. if i were you i'd go to the nearest university and offer myself as an interest case study.

    now you understand that (given your case is still applicable considering requirements, levels and frequency of test, correctness of data, procedure and equipment) this could only been considered as a personal experience of no statistic value, right?
    it's the ancient, rusty problem of the "old pal" everybody has that has crashed wearing nothing more than a t-shirt, had not even a scratch and now is claiming that atgatt is for morons...

    so, if want to give us something useful simply repeat your test twice again, then build up a statistic graph of measurements.
    then find out another bunch of guys with a similar story (at least 150-200. better 500. 1000 would be great.) test them three times and make similar graphs. then correct the data for age, gender, race, place, and anthropometric differences and come back here tellin us your findings.
    it would be awesome.

    while we wait we'll stick to others that have done all these stuff before you, and whose results are, as i said, worth of attention.

    http://www.isvr.co.uk/at_work/m_cycle.htm

    this is something newer:
    http://www.cieh.org/jehr/hearing_los...rcyclists.html

    and the cost327:
    http://ec.europa.eu/transport/roadsa...nal_report.pdf

    and here i report a screenshot (for the lazy ones...) of page 220-221 chapter 8:
    Attachment 298109
    Pardon?



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    It is fiction that you have to pay a speeding fine. It is just the interpretation of the issuing officer, about the said event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    It is fiction that you have to pay a speeding fine. It is just the interpretation of the issuing officer, about the said event.

    Did Akzle tell you that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    It is fiction that you have to pay a speeding fine. It is just the interpretation of the issuing officer, about the said event.
    I want my money back then.
    For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. Keep an open mind, just dont let your brains fall out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Did Akzle tell you that?
    It's written in legislation, where Akzle gets it from; Maybee you should read some sometime it's got alot to do with what you're supposed to be doing.
    Course the "MoJ" & Police have no concern/respect for law & will illegally steal or breach your rights regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    It is fiction that you have to pay a speeding fine. It is just the interpretation of the issuing officer, about the said event.
    You HAVE to pay the speeding fine if one is issued (although if you write "The letter" it may be waived)

    The issuing of the ticket depends entirely on/at the discretion of the officer at the time of said event ... as to what ( or ... if any) infringement notice is issued ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    It's written in legislation, where Akzle gets it from; Maybee you should read some sometime it's got alot to do with what you're supposed to be doing.
    Course the "MoJ" & Police have no concern/respect for law & will illegally steal or breach your rights regardless.

    You sound AWFULLY defensive to a rather inocuois remark I must say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    You HAVE to pay the speeding fine if one is issued (although if you write "The letter" it may be waived)

    The issuing of the ticket depends entirely on/at the discretion of the officer at the time of said event ... as to what ( or ... if any) infringement notice is issued ...
    You're ignorant, go read yourself some legislation it's all online right here


    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    You sound AWFULLY defensive to a rather inocuois remark I must say.

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    What can I say cept guess I'll have to watch Dads Army to know who this Sgt Wilson is
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urano View Post
    sorry about that.
    i've tried only to give you some info to preserve your health based on standardized data and not personal opinions (as respectable as they are).
    you're obviously free to give it the consideration you want...
    Yeah, rationale and citing credible references doesn't go down so well around here. You'll be labelled all sorts of titles, many of which won't make any sense.

    Other peculiarities:
    • You can literally make up anything, so long as it has a percentage figure in the claim.
    • Burden of proof is on the party refuting the claim.
    • Anything beyond a linear relationship is way beyond the comprehension of the crowd.


    They reckon 100% of people killed in an accident above the speed limit thought the speed they were doing was safe.

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    ...I just posted 'the letter'...I generally take a philosophical look at paying the speeding tax, and there have been so few in 42 years that I consider myself extremely lucky...but sometimes, some officers, seem as blind, as the fuckwit motorists, they have to herd...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    You're ignorant, go read yourself some legislation it's all online right here



    I looked ...

    Any particular heading I should be looking at ... ??? ... The Sale of Liquor Act 2012 maybe ... ???
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    An infringement offence notice or ION is an authorised officers allegation of wrong doing. The person on the receiving end is entirely in control of the situation.

    If they pay the fine they are legally pleading guilty. If they don't, it is in essence a not guilty plea, and becomes a matter to be sorted by the courts.

    Of course, if you don't agree with the ticket it's better to request a hearing up front and save a bunch of administration costs being added.

    Ultimately it's better to not get the ticket in the first place. Don't give the Popo's the right to issue the ION by not breaking the rules. Seems obvious really.

    Just sayin'

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