Cunliffe's constituent Liu?

[MisterD]

The coast and conservation projects will be the major benefactors. It'll be interesting to see what the Labour Party does, and if they oppose, what Damien O'Connor does.

...and O'Conner and Tirikatene have voted with the Government, Cunliffe has no power over his caucus, but the we knew that when the list was released.

I bet DC wishes he could pass a bill to cart away all the deadwood in his caucus

[Robert Taylor]

...and O'Conner and Tirikatene have voted with the Government, Cunliffe has no power over his caucus, but the we knew that when the list was released.

I bet DC wishes he could pass a bill to cart away all the deadwood in his caucus

Yes Cunliffe needs carting off as well. Damian Oconnor is not of the side of the fence that I would ever vote for. But all kudos to him, he is a realist and a strong advocate for the region he represents. Pity there arent more MPs like him.

[Swoop]

I bet DC wishes he could pass a bill to cart away all the deadwood in his caucus

I bet his caucus wishes they were getting the polling they had, when Shearer was leader.

Rough times ahead as well. Over a dozen donation "problems" have been made to liarbour and are yet to hit the media.

[Ocean1]

I bet his caucus wishes they were getting the polling they had, when Shearer was leader.

Rough times ahead as well. Over a dozen donation "problems" have been made to liarbour and are yet to hit the media.

I noticed the significantly negative public reaction yesterday to labour's NEW IMPROVED tax and spend idea with no surprise. How long do you suppose they'll hold on to what's increasingly obviously a policy failure, in both public and functional terms.

[oldrider]

I noticed the significantly negative public reaction yesterday to labour's NEW IMPROVED tax and spend idea with no surprise. How long do you suppose they'll hold on to what's increasingly obviously a policy failure, in both public and functional terms.

I think they (Liabour) got their ideas for their latest offering while reading "Classic Comics" adventures of Robin Hood and the sheriff of Notingham!

[mada]

I noticed the significantly negative public reaction yesterday to labour's NEW IMPROVED tax and spend idea with no surprise. How long do you suppose they'll hold on to what's increasingly obviously a policy failure, in both public and functional terms.

Let me guess... if we increase the top rates all those people affected will move overseas to other Western Countries? (which funnily enough already have much higher income tax rates than us).

I think most middle and working class people would be more supportive of a % increase for those over $150,000 than taxing fucking kids and paperboys like this ruthless government. Gotta hand it to Key for being a good used car salesman, selling it to the public that collecting $14 million over 4 years from little kiddies work money was essential. :violin:

[MisterD]

Let me guess... if we increase the top rates all those people affected will move overseas to other Western Countries? (which funnily enough already have much higher income tax rates than us).

Ask any tax lawyer which flavour of Goverment makes most work for them. Neither the Cullen increases, the hikes in the UK or France produced anything like the revenue that those governments' calcualtions thought they should.

As for press releases saying they're going to crack down on Facebook... If the US government can't get taxes out of Facebook because they're domiciled in Ireland, what show does Cunners have?

[Oscar]

Let me guess... if we increase the top rates all those people affected will move overseas to other Western Countries? (which funnily enough already have much higher income tax rates than us).

I think most middle and working class people would be more supportive of a % increase for those over $150,000 than taxing fucking kids and paperboys like this ruthless government. Gotta hand it to Key for being a good used car salesman, selling it to the public that collecting $14 million over 4 years from little kiddies work money was essential.

Heard of "Working for Families"?
Working class families (over 50% of households) in NZ pay little or no income tax.

[Swoop]

How long do you suppose they'll hold on to what's increasingly obviously a policy failure, in both public and functional terms.

I'm surprised Silent T hasn't been rolled yet, even shortly before an election. The liarbour caucus is seriously unhappy.

As for coming up with new ideas and heading in new directions... they had better speak with NZ's biggest contributor to the political funding arena - the teacher's union.
Sadly their brain cell still cannot get away from the idioms that restrict their own free thinking in this area.

[oldrider]

Let me guess... if we increase the top rates all those people affected will move overseas to other Western Countries? (which funnily enough already have much higher income tax rates than us).

I think most middle and working class people would be more supportive of a % increase for those over $150,000 than taxing fucking kids and paperboys like this ruthless government. Gotta hand it to Key for being a good used car salesman, selling it to the public that collecting $14 million over 4 years from little kiddies work money was essential.

Does anybody (KB) out there actually know mada?

[mada]

Does anybody (KB) out there actually know mada?

I'm Clint.

[mada]

Heard of "Working for Families"?
Working class families (over 50% of households) in NZ pay little or no income tax.

Yes cos New Zealand wages are so shit compared to inflation that the government has to subsidise employees.

If the government (Clarks and Keys) had had balls and rectified the stupid housing debt / runaway prices then WFF would not be required...

And now we have the same monumental fucked up mentality dominating our Christchurch response "leave it to the market"....

[mada]

Ask any tax lawyer which flavour of Goverment makes most work for them. Neither the Cullen increases, the hikes in the UK or France produced anything like the revenue that those governments' calcualtions thought they should.

As for press releases saying they're going to crack down on Facebook... If the US government can't get taxes out of Facebook because they're domiciled in Ireland, what show does Cunners have?

The same can be said for asset sales - did not produce the revenue calculated or expected.

The same can be said for the tax switch - did not produce the revenue calculated or expected. In fact all it did was screw over working and middle class families more given that GST is a component of pretty much every single purchase for a service or product in the country - unless of course buying illicit goods.

Rumours have it National are planning another GST increase. Remember what Key said prior to the 2008 election about raising GST?

[Oscar]

Yes cos New Zealand wages are so shit compared to inflation that the government has to subsidise employees.

What inflation?
What has that got to do with marginal tax rates?

[mada]

What inflation?
What has that got to do with marginal tax rates?

Nevermind.... Agree to disagree.

Like I said before, if you guys are so confident and right then you wont even need to turn up to vote - its a foregone conclusion.