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    Losing your licence?

    So if someone amasses 100 demerit points, Do they get to wait untill the cops come door knocking before handing over their licence?

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/motoring/n...ectid=11284883

    Has anyone here lost their licence and whats the process for handing it in?
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    Wait. If the fools take 4 years to notify you I'd figure that provided you had not amassed a load of point in between that the courts would tell em to stuff-off.

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    Didn't have the cops for mine, contractor for NZTA. Tried door knocking several times, but I was always out. I knew the suspension was coming so was working long days to get as much done. After several visits the person finally took my number when offered, arranged a date, then still tried to visit in between on the weekend... was slightly annoyed but then I guess they don't usually get the honest types. I was still out tho

    Anyway, I can't remember exactly, but it would have been a matter of weeks after payment of the fine to getting the visits.

    I did get the 50dm warning letter, that was a surprise, as I only thought I had one of the two fines. If for some reason your details aren't up to date, then you may not get the letter, however, you can ring driver licencing any time, and you should know you're picking up fines and demerits.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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    i had 90 for 2 years
    and never received a 50 letter
    thankfully the expired

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    Didn't have the cops for mine, contractor for NZTA. Tried door knocking several times, but I was always out. I knew the suspension was coming so was working long days to get as much done. After several visits the person finally took my number when offered, arranged a date, then still tried to visit in between on the weekend... was slightly annoyed but then I guess they don't usually get the honest types. I was still out tho

    Anyway, I can't remember exactly, but it would have been a matter of weeks after payment of the fine to getting the visits.

    I did get the 50dm warning letter, that was a surprise, as I only thought I had one of the two fines. If for some reason your details aren't up to date, then you may not get the letter, however, you can ring driver licencing any time, and you should know you're picking up fines and demerits.
    Gremlin has described the process correctly. I have never had the experience of losing mine however we deal with and advise people who have on a regular basis.
    I am happy to out line the process for obtaining a work licence and the costs if anyone needs that information.

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    Prevention First

    Just a thought.

    Don't do things that carry demerits.

    Simple things almost always the best.

    Prevention First.

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    I understand that a work licence is fairly hard to get. No, I'm not losing my licence. Last ticket was back in 1972. 6 mph over the limit ( 45mph ) for carrying a pillion. Cost me $12.00.

    The article above seem ludicrous in todays digital age. I would have thought upon reaching 100dm that an automated letter would be sent giving a time frame to hand in your licence.

    Still, if I did do my licence, I'd make damn sure they would have to chase me up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Just a thought.

    Don't do things that carry demerits.
    Novel idea... my moment of clarity was standing in front of a judge pleading for a work licence. Light bulb moment... ahhh, if I stay within the law, I won't get tickets!

    Quote Originally Posted by awa355 View Post
    I understand that a work licence is fairly hard to get. No, I'm not losing my licence. Last ticket was back in 1972. 6 mph over the limit ( 45mph ) for carrying a pillion. Cost me $12.00.
    I lost mine in 2008 for excess demerits. Pretty sure there is a thread here about getting one, although the process could have changed in the last 6 years. I know you get a red licence now, while I didn't. I'm actually trying to think, pretty sure it was a paper licence.

    I did all the work for it myself, all the required paperwork and came out around $400, which was purely court fees and licence fees. If you're uncertain, then go the lawyer route but obviously you'll have their fees. Apparently I got one of the most lenient work licences, able to travel 9am to midnight within the bounds of greater Auckland, 6 days a week and on 2 specific Sundays for 10 weeks (3 months less the 2 weeks between loss and court date) and had to be one set vehicle. Every trip (even a couple of km) was logged, all the paperwork had to be carried at all times. Never got stopped though so don't know what kind of process they would have run through. Usually you'll get a set route to and from work, set time bracket in the morning and evening for that commute etc.

    I do remember the courts saying the judges don't like too many work licence applications at one time, so they spread them out, and they aren't done every day either...
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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    You still lose it for the same amount of time regardless of when you hand it in/have it taken off you. Better to do it on your own terms than on the side of the road when a cop notices you haven't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awa355 View Post

    The article above seem ludicrous in todays digital age. I would have thought upon reaching 100dm that an automated letter would be sent giving a time frame to hand in your licence.
    rastus might be able to clarify this but it has something to do with the suspension of the licence and forbidden to drive rules.

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    How the fuck does someone go about getting enough demerits to have their license suspended?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Just a thought.

    Don't do things that carry demerits.

    Simple things almost always the best.

    Prevention First.
    Or just don't get caught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoristheBiter View Post
    rastus might be able to clarify this but it has something to do with the suspension of the licence and forbidden to drive rules.
    Related but distinct. You get forbidden if you don't hold a licence. Or maybe you're on a bike, and you have a car licence only, then you get forbidden from riding a Class 6 until you get a Class 6.

    A forbidden driver gets dealt with similar to a suspended driver, but via a different charge.

    Driving While Forbidden gets a vehicle impounded for 28 days, as does Driving While Suspended.
    Difference is the potential penalty. Generally Forbidden just carries a fine. It can carry disqualification, but only if you really cheese the JP off. Suspended is treated far more seriously, basically because "The Man" (Clint Eastwood, a.k.a. the System) has told you not to drive, and you've raised a finger and driven anyway. Penalty has 6 months minimum disqualification of all licences held.

    Post your queries on this, when I've got time I'll post replies.

    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    How the fuck does someone go about getting enough demerits to have their license suspended?
    Here's the link to the list of dumb shit that carries demerits.

    http://www.nzta.govt.nz/licence/offe...s/demerit.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner View Post
    Or just don't get caught.
    +1

    Almost the same thing, but with more derring do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    How the fuck does someone go about getting enough demerits to have their license suspended?
    In about 20 months I picked up passing on yellows (35), careless (35) and then speeding (50)... Worst part was, the speeding one was in a really obvious place (Marton region, SH1 long straights), not riding my bike and I didn't realise I was going that quick... Cop was the only one coming towards me, and then I looked at my speed right before he radar'd me ...

    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Penalty has 6 months minimum disqualification of all licences held.
    Technically, you only have one licence and multiple classes... people get confused so I thought I'd correct. When your licence is suspended/taken/whatever, it affects every class, as there is only one licence.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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