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    Announce Big bore air-cooled motors in sidecars?

    I was looking at the entries for Phillips Island and saw several GS1168 motors. At the end of this year, I'm switching to a GS1100. I run an external oil cooler. What else is critical to keeping these motors alive in a sidecar?
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    For the benefit of the locals, he's talking GSX.....

    Warwick, what broke on battletruck ? C'mon several of you guys have run GSX1100's over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    For the benefit of the locals, he's talking GSX.....

    Warwick, what broke on battletruck ? C'mon several of you guys have run GSX1100's over the years.
    and post pictures!
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    You do know philip island is in a different country aye?

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    Yeah, he might do, but we all know that our sidecar guys are know-it-alls and know all that there is to know about sidechairs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveyb View Post
    Yeah, he might do, but we all know that our sidecar guys are know-it-alls and know all that there is to know about sidechairs.
    I'll correct you there Steve. We know it all about everything!! Sidecars?? Wouldn't have a fucken clue.........
    Is it still beastiality if ya fuck a frozen chicken??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Warwick, what broke on battletruck ? C'mon several of you guys have run GSX1100's over the years.
    We think it was actually a piston which let go intially and then put a rod out the front, but the guy riding it used to adjust the rev limiter depending on how hard he thought we'd need to rev it
    Quote Originally Posted by steveyb View Post
    Yeah, he might do, but we all know that our sidecar guys are know-it-alls and know all that there is to know about sidechairs.
    Hey Dr check this
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Even BP would shy away from cleaning up a sidecar oil spill.
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    Send Lawyers, guns and money, the shit has hit the fan

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    Are they allowed to be dry sumped in P3? That'd take care of the cooling, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrivy View Post
    I'll correct you there Steve. We know it all about everything!! Sidecars?? Wouldn't have a fucken clue.........
    If you haven't a fuckin clue reguarding sidecars then clearly you don't know it all about everything!!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    Hey Dr check this
    Now that's just mean!
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveyb View Post
    Now that's just mean!
    You've probably tried to blank it from your memory but I can remember Neil Freeman doing it to you in real life at Pukekohe, must have been about 2002
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Even BP would shy away from cleaning up a sidecar oil spill.
    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Zevon
    Send Lawyers, guns and money, the shit has hit the fan

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    there is definitely no difference in sidecar people on different continents

    How about I ask this way

    do you run oil coolers and if so what size cooler and hoses?

    do you do anything special for airflow around the motor? extra ducts?

    does anyone track cylinder head temp or oil temp? if so, how hot does it get?

    btw, I trashed my first motor when I forgot to test the rev limiter after installing it ... until I missed a shift
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    You've probably tried to blank it from your memory but I can remember Neil Freeman doing it to you in real life at Pukekohe, must have been about 2002
    You're a sick, sick man for having that in your memory banks......
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveyb View Post
    You're a sick, sick man for having that in your memory banks......
    It is very hard to block out, drugs and alcohol help though
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    Even BP would shy away from cleaning up a sidecar oil spill.
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    Send Lawyers, guns and money, the shit has hit the fan

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    They run way too hot even in a solo, interestingly with virtually no ill effects whatsoever really.
    However, run the biggest oil cooler you can fit on it. When installing an oil cooler to an 1100 engine you must run an 1150 oil filter cover, otherwise the oil wont flow as pressure will be equal in both sides of the cooler.
    Run GS750 oil pump gears, the different ratio runs the oil pump faster with obvious benifits.
    Also, methanol is a good idea to keep engine temp down if it is behind a big fairing.
    You will never need to dry sump the engine as the roller bearing bottom end is oblivious to a bit of oil surge.
    In short, they are a bloody great sidecar engine!!
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