Haircut boy gets $24k costs

[Yow Ling]

Well it's $24k down the drain for the school.....isn't that taxpayers money in there somewhere....actual costs were about $36k apparently....what a waste of time and money, the little shit should've just got a haircut

If their actual costs were 36k and they were awarded 24k it makes it a pretty expensive principle to stand up for.
Plus the now somewhat limited employment prospects for Lucan, really who would want to employ a agitator, maybe he will need to join the public service, unions or a fringe political party

[MVnut]

If their actual costs were 36k and they were awarded 24k it makes it a pretty expensive principle to stand up for.
Plus the now somewhat limited employment prospects for Lucan, really who would want to employ a agitator, maybe he will need to join the public service, unions or a fringe political party

Why can't he just live off the dole like a lot of others (hey I'm not knocking you if you really can't get a job)

[Ocean1]

It's school. He's not operating a lathe or an M134. It's a non-issue that's cost tax-payer money when it should have been resolved within the school system.

Who are you calling girlie? If you're a "trade_nancy" I rather suspect you're calling the kettle black, pot.

An ad hominem attack usually means you've conceded the point and your overreacting angrily to hide the sneaking suspicion that there is more truth in my position than your own. Nothing bad will happen if a schoolboy ties his hair up. I promise. Something bad happened because a reactionary pillock with a Hitler complex pushed it into court. Whihc may or may not have been his own Dad.

Aannnd what happens when the next wee git ties his hair up so it only touches his collar sometimes?

Somewhere, someone has to draw a line, knowing that every fucking adolescent on the planet is going to step over it. And sooner, not later a kid absolutely has to be told that he's over the line.

Because the consequences of just giving up and letting them have long hair is that they'll ignore rules for the rest of their lives.

Really. Can't you see the results of exactly that all around you even now?

[swbarnett]

Aannnd what happens when the next wee git ties his hair up so it only touches his collar sometimes?

Somewhere, someone has to draw a line, knowing that every fucking adolescent on the planet is going to step over it. And sooner, not later a kid absolutely has to be told that he's over the line.

Because the consequences of just giving up and letting them have long hair is that they'll ignore rules for the rest of their lives.

Really. Can't you see the results of exactly that all around you even now?

Yes, but if the lesson was to challenge those laws that just don't stand up to close scrutiny then that rebellious streak would be of great benefit to us all and should be encouraged.

[Ocean1]

Yes, but if the lesson was to challenge those laws that just don't stand up to close scrutiny then that rebellious streak would be of great benefit to us all and should be encouraged.

But that's not the lesson.

For adolescent boys the lesson is: Can you obey orders?

Historically those that answered "no" too often didn't survive to become men.

Today they do, we just often wish they hadn't.

[Winston001]

Don't you think its astonishing that in 2014 schools are still arguing over the length of boys hair? I remember this stuff well in the 1970s and eventually the schools gave up. Funny how things come around.

The general views expressed online, in public opinion letters, and talkback, support the school which is a little surprising.

Anyway leaving that aside, the one statement which annoyed me was from the boy's father who said his son had learned to stand up for himself. Nonsense.

If his son had intervened in a bullying situation, or publicly rejected racial discrimination among his peers, or had taken some unpopular stand to protect others - yes that would be standing up.

But his issue was completely self-centred - all about him, on a trivial matter.

As someone said upthread, pick your battles.

[swbarnett]

Far too many apathetic yes men (and women) around today. I'd far rather have people who are able to judge for themselves if a rule is just or not. Even better if they have the wisdom to know when to challenge said rules.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Well it's $24k down the drain for the school.....isn't that taxpayers money in there somewhere....actual costs were about $36k apparently....what a waste of time and money, the little shit should've just got a haircut

incorrect. The school shouldn't have been a bunch of fascists. the principal and the board should be sacked and also prosecuted for wasting taxpayers goddamn money.

Pointless, futile, absolute waste of time, effort and energy. School uniforms are instruments of fascism, and school teachers are, almost without exception, power crazed, terrible human beings. They got exactly what they deserved. Fuck them.

[HenryDorsetCase]

If their actual costs were 36k and they were awarded 24k it makes it a pretty expensive principle to stand up for.
Plus the now somewhat limited employment prospects for Lucan, really who would want to employ a agitator, maybe he will need to join the public service, unions or a fringe political party

I would be happy to employ someone who was prepared to endure the ridicule of fuckwits to stand up for a principle they thought was right.

I can't believe the attitude of some of you people. talk about chop your tall poppies.

[Akzle]

'this is the way we've akways whipped dead horses'

[mashman]

Aannnd what happens when the next wee git ties his hair up so it only touches his collar sometimes?

Somewhere, someone has to draw a line, knowing that every fucking adolescent on the planet is going to step over it. And sooner, not later a kid absolutely has to be told that he's over the line.

Because the consequences of just giving up and letting them have long hair is that they'll ignore rules for the rest of their lives.

Really. Can't you see the results of exactly that all around you even now?

Cachchchchchching.

Compliance using force. Priceless. Gawd yer a fossil. If the rules are fuckin stupid, then they should be removed. I hope all of the boys at the school grow their hair. It ain't like it's going to change the person, although they may have a bit more respect for the authority figures in that their concerns will have been addressed.

[Yow Ling]

I would be happy to employ someone who was prepared to endure the ridicule of fuckwits to stand up for a principle they thought was right.

I can't believe the attitude of some of you people. talk about chop your tall poppies.

Give him a job then. How many people do you currently employ ? Or are you just talking hypothetically

[Akzle]

Give him a job then. How many people do you currently employ ? Or are you just talking hypothetically

the kids still in school, doing well, incase you didnt notice.

i know how distracting the big letters on headlines can be, and with so many people repeating the same irrelevant shit, i can see how you wouldnt notice that.

[Ocean1]

Cachchchchchching.

Compliance using force. Priceless. Gawd yer a fossil. If the rules are fuckin stupid, then they should be removed. I hope all of the boys at the school grow their hair. It ain't like it's going to change the person, although they may have a bit more respect for the authority figures in that their concerns will have been addressed.

You must really enjoy being wrong, anyone else would get sick of the ridicule.

The rules aren't stupid, they're there to effect a change in adolescent behaviour to that required of an adult.

Adults that contribute positively to society, rather than themselves.

Adults that don't steal your shit.

Adults that don't rape your daughter.

[Berries]

incorrect. The school shouldn't have been a bunch of fascists. the principal and the board should be sacked and also prosecuted for wasting taxpayers goddamn money.

Pointless, futile, absolute waste of time, effort and energy. School uniforms are instruments of fascism, and school teachers are, almost without exception, power crazed, terrible human beings. They got exactly what they deserved. Fuck them.

Twenty bucks says you have dreads.