Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[mashman]

Smallest pub in the world. *The Thalidomide Arms*

heh, we used to hang around waiting for the Queens Legs to open to get a drink.

[Crasherfromwayback]

heh, we used to hang around waiting for the Queens Legs to open to get a drink.

Lol. Fucked if I'd drink anything that came outta there!

[mashman]

Lol. Fucked if I'd drink anything that came outta there!

Ya fuckin snob.

[Katman]

Let me start by saying I have no formed opinion on the vaccination issue but found this interesting....

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1164794

[noobi]

Found this interesting too

http://www.snopes.com/medical/diseas...stleblower.asp

[Katman]

Found this interesting too

http://www.snopes.com/medical/diseas...stleblower.asp

Yes, I'm always amused by sites who discredit articles based simply on the fact that it could have been submitted by any aggrieved member of the public with an agenda - but give no indication of the credentials (or the agenda) of the person 'debunking' the article.

[idb]

The whole antivax conspiracy crowd have changed tack over the years.
An original claim by them was that thimerosal was causing it because it contains a form of mercury.
Thimerosal was removed from vaccines in 1999 but, guess what, the incidence of autism hasn't been affected!

[noobi]

Yes, I'm always amused by sites who discredit articles based simply on the fact that it could have been submitted by any aggrieved member of the public with an agenda - but give no indication of the credentials (or the agenda) of the person 'debunking' the article.

The CNN ireport link was written by who?

The ScienceBlog links at the bottom of the snopes page are written by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Gorski , who to be fair is a noted critic of the antivaccine movement. Although at least he says who he is.

[idb]

The CNN ireport link was written by who?

The ScienceBlog links at the bottom of the snopes page are written by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Gorski , who to be fair is a noted critic of the antivaccine movement. Although at least he says who he is.

The CNN "article" is basically a crowd-sourced article that can be submitted by anyone...a blog if you like.

[noobi]

The CNN "article" is basically a crowd-sourced article that can be submitted by anyone...a blog if you like.

I know, was just trying to point out to katman that what he said about the snopes article applies equally to the cnn article.

[Katman]

I know, was just trying to point out to katman that what he said about the snopes article applies equally to the cnn article.

If you re-read my post you'll see that I've already conceded that point.

(And it was, in fact, the whole point of my previous post).

[idb]

I know, was just trying to point out to katman that what he said about the snopes article applies equally to the cnn article.

Sorry, I wasn't criticising, I was re-inforcing your point.

[Katman]

An interesting article on Snopes.

http://www.politicalears.com/blog/snopes-got-snoped/

[flyingcrocodile46]

We see here the approach of a virus against one has been adequatley vaccinated, they try to gain a foothold but end up fucking off in short order.

Ah yeh, the great thalidomide scandal, brought into light by a sensationalist headline and a youtube video was it? No, wait, it was facts and studies again; useful things eh!

Thalidomide is still used for cancer treatment - just not given to pregnant women. Of course drug companies make mistakes - until they are tried on humans how can they know what the side effects are. How many peoples lives have you helped to save developing new drugs and treatments?

You are uninformed idiots. How long after thalidomide is proven to be a fucking unmitigated disaster for the users (and in particular, their children) is a drug company allowed to keep selling it to women to treat morning sickness before idiots like you understand that Pharma is interested only in profit and really couldn't give a shit about the health of people?? The answer is.. that you wouldn't have a fucking clue because you are too ignorant of real facts to be able discern your arse from your elbow (yet insist on debating subjects on which you are completely ignorant). Thalidomide was still being manufactured and sold to pregnant women in third world countries more than twenty years after it was exposed for what it was. It's a fact (google it you dip shits).

Now. Scientific studies and the misplaced trust that you so ignorantly place in them. You only have to look at "Global warming" and the fucking lies that so called cLiemate scientists propagated for nearly two decades, to understand how the narrative filling funding for scientific study works. Have a listen to the audio file from BBC Radio 4 (below) "Everything we know, is wrong" which discusses the simple truths about $cientific $tudie$ and how utterly worthless they are.

Rule # 1 when evaluating the veracity of scientific studies is that the result must be replicable. What's the fucking point in having this rule when 99% of published findings are accepted at face value without any attempt at replication of the study? More so when it is understood that of the 1% of studies that are replicated, only 33% confirm the findings (66% are fucking lies). Who do you think gets funded to carry out replication studies??... Fucking no one, that's who. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04f9r4k If you want to be ignorant, that's fine. Just don't dispute other peoples opinions by pretending that you have a fucking clue.

[bogan]

You are uninformed idiots. How long after thalidomide is proven to be a fucking unmitigated disaster for the users (and in particular, their children) is a drug company allowed to keep selling it to women to treat morning sickness before idiots like you understand that Pharma is interested only in profit and really couldn't give a shit about the health of people?? The answer is.. that you wouldn't have a fucking clue because you are too ignorant of real facts to be able discern your arse from your elbow (yet insist on debating subjects on which you are completely ignorant). Thalidomide was still being manufactured and sold to pregnant women in third world countries more than twenty years after it was exposed for what it was. It's a fact (google it you dip shits).

Now. Scientific studies and the misplaced trust that you so ignorantly place in them. You only have to look at "Global warming" and the fucking lies that so called cLiemate scientists propagated for nearly two decades, to understand how the narrative filling funding for scientific study works. Have a listen to the audio file from BBC Radio 4 (below) "Everything we know, is wrong" which discusses the simple truths about $cientific $tudie$ and how utterly worthless they are.

Rule # 1 when evaluating the veracity of scientific studies is that the result must be replicable. What's the fucking point in having this rule when 99% of published findings are accepted at face value without any attempt at replication of the study? More so when it is understood that of the 1% of studies that are replicated, only 33% confirm the findings (66% are fucking lies). http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04f9r4k If you want to be ignorant, that's fine. Just don't dispute other peoples opinions by pretending that you have a fucking clue.

A persistent virus, how long will this attempt last? Has previous encounters built up or reduced the immune system?

Regardless of how much you rant and rave about youtubes and headlines being better than studies, tis still the studies that get the job done.