Hi tech speed camera in Wellington gorge earns $

[willytheekid]

...problem solved!


(Or just dont speed in the first place...my only option seeing as I throw like a girl nowdays lol)

[Berg]

So having everyone hard on brakes, steering at speedo, pushing their way into other lanes so they don't have to merge (these people are the pinnacle of retard), and leaving no gaps for people to merge because of all of this is "common sense"...
Are you one of these retards that think merging is easier at slower speeds??? Fact: NO, gaps become non existent & merging becomes much harder at slower speeds especially when speeds are changed just before the merge. Really why merging should be part of the licence & any significant slow down should be a fail

But hey never let facts & logic get in the way of NZs biggest illegal scam

Na, I'm the "retard" who has to clean up the mess when fuckwit drivers and riders (many of whom believe they are the best out there) make mistakes causing crashes (funnily enough often involving other "self impressed" drivers/riders) but that will never happen to us aye.
While I agree, lowering speed limits in places where dumb shits keep crashing, only serves to lower the ability of the common denominator drivers rather than leave the road the way it is and raise the level/standard of driving, we cannot choose which laws we want to break.
We do however have a way of reducing the laws ability to take our cash and its a simple one. Don't break the law even if you don't agree with it! Surely if tickets are just revenue collection the police will go broke and then we will be able to do as we wish. Lol, bet many here couldn't manage something that simple

[oneofsix]

Na, I'm the "retard" who has to clean up the mess when fuckwit drivers and riders (many of whom believe they are the best out there) make mistakes causing crashes (funnily enough often involving other "self impressed" drivers/riders) but that will never happen to us aye.
While I agree, lowering speed limits in places where dumb shits keep crashing, only serves to lower the ability of the common denominator drivers rather than leave the road the way it is and raise the level/standard of driving, we cannot choose which laws we want to break.
We do however have a way of reducing the laws ability to take our cash and its a simple one. Don't break the law even if you don't agree with it! Surely if tickets are just revenue collection the police will go broke and then we will be able to do as we wish. Lol, bet many here couldn't manage something that simple

Whilst I agree we have to reduce the crashes that particular camera is sited to cause them. Rolling over and playing along just lets the fuckwits drunk on their authority believe they are doing the right thing.
Seriously, what are the crash stats? not road toll as that just proves the car manufacturers are doing a good job. As long as the focus on the road toll and not the crash stats and keep doing retarded shit like that revenue gather camera in the gorge, sadly, you will still be picking up the pieces except instead of dead meat it will be a pain and suffering.

[mashman]

(Or just dont speed in the first place...my only option seeing as I throw like a girl nowdays lol)

Option B: use it like a hammer.

[Scuba_Steve]

Na, I'm the "retard" who has to clean up the mess when fuckwit drivers and riders (many of whom believe they are the best out there) make mistakes causing crashes (funnily enough often involving other "self impressed" drivers/riders) but that will never happen to us aye.
While I agree, lowering speed limits in places where dumb shits keep crashing, only serves to lower the ability of the common denominator drivers rather than leave the road the way it is and raise the level/standard of driving, we cannot choose which laws we want to break.
We do however have a way of reducing the laws ability to take our cash and its a simple one. Don't break the law even if you don't agree with it! Surely if tickets are just revenue collection the police will go broke and then we will be able to do as we wish. Lol, bet many here couldn't manage something that simple

Statistics say over 70% of those "messes you clean" happen below the speed limit. Anyways you mention "we cannot choose which laws we want to break" yet for some reason you [police] can, you [police] can also choose which to inforce & yet you [police] choose one that can be shown to have an adverse effect to safety & refuse to do anything about actual road safety like bad drivers
I understand this isn't your personal choice it's dictated to you by the criminal gang you work for but fact remains by running the speed scam you are achieving absolutely nothing for the improved safety on NZ roads, you're just bringing in the $$$ for the Govt & by extension the popo (which really makes the popo a profit making organisation doesn't it?)

[swbarnett]

we cannot choose which laws we want to break.

On the flip side, if we just bend over we will be faced with ever more draconian laws that are of benifit only to a few narrow-minded shit-heads.

[willytheekid]

Option B: use it like a hammer.

WAIT!!!...can you repeat that

...I seem to have missed a step

[rebel]

So.
Get to work on it straight away!

An old tyre over the top, then set it on fire. Viola!

Umm, pretty sure that commie coon Mandela has trademarked such a move.

If the Ngauranga gorge was in Oz, it would be a 60 kay limit with trucks limited to 40.
The fuckin revenue raisers occasionally speed gun north bound traffic. Would have to be some of the safest stretches of road in NZ per vehicle traveled/fatilities, along with Akld motorway Bombay-Puhoi, Waikato expressway yet these pricks are patrolling them nearly 24/7. Job satisfaction must be fuck all.

[motor_mayhem]

Statistics say over 70% of those "messes you clean" happen below the speed limit. Anyways you mention "we cannot choose which laws we want to break" yet for some reason you [police] can, you [police] can also choose which to inforce & yet you [police] choose one that can be shown to have an adverse effect to safety & refuse to do anything about actual road safety like bad drivers
I understand this isn't your personal choice it's dictated to you by the criminal gang you work for but fact remains by running the speed scam you are achieving absolutely nothing for the improved safety on NZ roads, you're just bringing in the $$$ for the Govt & by extension the popo (which really makes the popo a profit making organisation doesn't it?)

SS Are you seriously saying if someone killed or injured another person, burned vandalised or stole something or any other number of crimes, you would be against the police using whatever means necessary to apprehend them should they seek to dodge responsibility for their actions? Because I don't see a society where no one is held accountable for their actions going very far except perhaps in a "Lord of the Flies" type direction

[Scuba_Steve]

SS Are you seriously saying if someone killed or injured another person, burned vandalised or stole something or any other number of crimes, you would be against the police using whatever means necessary to apprehend them should they seek to dodge responsibility for their actions? Because I don't see a society where no one is held accountable for their actions going very far except perhaps in a "Lord of the Flies" type direction

I'm unsure how you read that from my post but ok? And yes I would be against the popo beating everyone in a council flatting block just because a thief may or may not live there, I'm against the popo imposing military oppression to find a vandal, I'm against the popo stealing/monitoring computers to incriminate someone in a bar fight... I'm against corruption & the oppression of rights. Plain & simple

[Swoop]

Umm, pretty sure that commie coon Mandela has trademarked such a move.

If the Ngauranga gorge was in Oz, it would be a 60 kay limit with trucks limited to 40.
The fuckin revenue raisers occasionally speed gun north bound traffic. Would have to be some of the safest stretches of road in NZ per vehicle traveled/fatilities, along with Akld motorway Bombay-Puhoi, Waikato expressway yet these pricks are patrolling them nearly 24/7. Job satisfaction must be fuck all.

Better work stories though!!


The Brits do quite well with their burning of the gatso cameras...

[James Deuce]

SS Are you seriously saying if someone killed or injured another person, burned vandalised or stole something or any other number of crimes, you would be against the police using whatever means necessary to apprehend them should they seek to dodge responsibility for their actions? Because I don't see a society where no one is held accountable for their actions going very far except perhaps in a "Lord of the Flies" type direction

It's charming that there is still someone who thinks the Police give a fuck about non-violent personal crimes. They don't. Oh, and the only people being held accountable for their actions seem to be people at the stony bottom of the cliff who need help, not another couple of years in prison.

[R650R]

Classic evidence here that use of technology is NOT about solving crime in this ANPR car story http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...tolen-vehicles

"Police say the technology does not capture any details about drivers or passengers, and information recorded by the system is deleted after 48 hours. "

Now with data storage being so ridiculously cheap these days there is NO excuse for deleting data. I think this is being done so they don't SOLVE too much crime and have the jails over flowing.
If the data is being captured to start with I seen no distinction between storing it for 2 days or 2 decades. It is no different to a witness testifying that for whatever reason they remember seeing you at date and time x at location x.
The police could already use any bank receipts or phone records for the whole big brother thing so why delete the ANPR camera data after two days.

Well here's why, they catch Burglar Barry in the act and using a car full of stolen goods. Lucky for Barry he's had a rest and not done any other burgalies in last two days. But in the week prior he had done several and driven past the ANPR camera near the locations discreetly as his plate wasn't flagged yet. Now if the Data was still there it would be extra work for cops and maybe some closure for the victims. The extra burgs prob wouldn't ad to the wet bus ticket sentence anyway tho...

And what of the case where someones away for work or holiday so stolen vehicle not reported straight away or a serial killer on loose. Police are throwing away possible crucial evidence that could have captured offenders movements and patterns.

[Swoop]

Classic evidence here that use of technology is NOT about solving crime in this ANPR car story http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...tolen-vehicles

"Police say the technology does not capture any details about drivers or passengers, and information recorded by the system is deleted after 48 hours. "

Now with data storage being so ridiculously cheap these days there is NO excuse for deleting data. I think this is being done so they don't SOLVE too much crime and have the jails over flowing.
If the data is being captured to start with I seen no distinction between storing it for 2 days or 2 decades. It is no different to a witness testifying that for whatever reason they remember seeing you at date and time x at location x.
The police could already use any bank receipts or phone records for the whole big brother thing so why delete the ANPR camera data after two days.

Well here's why, they catch Burglar Barry in the act and using a car full of stolen goods. Lucky for Barry he's had a rest and not done any other burgalies in last two days. But in the week prior he had done several and driven past the ANPR camera near the locations discreetly as his plate wasn't flagged yet. Now if the Data was still there it would be extra work for cops and maybe some closure for the victims. The extra burgs prob wouldn't ad to the wet bus ticket sentence anyway tho...

And what of the case where someones away for work or holiday so stolen vehicle not reported straight away or a serial killer on loose. Police are throwing away possible crucial evidence that could have captured offenders movements and patterns.

So?
Get out there and start DELETING the tax cameras!

[R650R]

So?
Get out there and start DELETING the tax cameras!

I'm not bothered at all about speed cameras or police using technology.
My point is the govt is not using it to its potential to reduce crime.