MNZ rule changes for 2015

[nodrog:Me]

slight curve ball to this Re the helmet less slow lap parade. The street races still come under the authority of the Police if there is a serious accident where some one gets hurt, so imagine if a fluke incident was to happen and a some one was seriously injured, how would that look for MNZ to have allowed people to ride vehicles on the street Illegally as such with a helmet mmm Extreme example yes, but shit can happen

cool. I didn't see you up on your hobby horse when Cros was riding around Wanganui helmet less doing wheelstands a couple of years ago.

Maybe you didn't have grief with MNZ then so it was ok?

[nodrog:Me]

It can with wheelies too you brain dead motherfucker! But Lance is the only cunt I know who ever got in trouble for those!

what about Patrick?

[jasonu]

slight curve ball to this Re the helmet less slow lap parade. The street races still come under the authority of the Police if there is a serious accident where some one gets hurt, so imagine if a fluke incident was to happen and a some one was seriously injured, how would that look for MNZ to have allowed people to ride vehicles on the street Illegally as such with a helmet mmm Extreme example yes, but shit can happen

Fair post that man.

[Drew]

Fair post that man.

Don't encourage him, fuck ya!

[sidecar bob]

Sorry Bob,

Can't agree with much of your post other than the fact he has put in a huge amount of his time, He has been inconsistent in his decision making, The Paeroa life ban is a classic example, I was dragged into it earlier this year after being contacted by Biggles who was contacting me on behalf of the competitor, On further investigation it was discovered that there is NO life ban offered by MNZ for any single event, Its all or nothing, The event organiser was only to happy to have the competitor attend as was the AMCC president, While I didn't agree with the members actions, It was handled very badly by ALL involved and was driven by the usual suspects, Many other competitors have been allowed to perform wheelies AND stoppies at Paeroa over the years with no recourse, This guy was singled out from the outset by the oldboys club involved with AMCC and it escalated from there, I have a list a mile long of complaints from competitors and spectators alike in relation to the actions of this group, Including blatant disregard of competitors and spectators safety by way of turning a blind eye to the actions of the "Golden ones" while using a sledgehammer on others, In respect to Paeroa this year, He was not on the permit as an official therefore your comment re his call to abandon the event is baseless, UNLESS he was steering the ship from behind the scenes in which case he needs to explain the illegal and unpermitted "Helmetless parade lap" which included children, Also helmetless on the fuel tanks of some machines including sidecars ???? All which took place 12 months to the day from the last fatality at that circuit AND on a track they had declared UNSAFE to compete on,Yes Graham Bastow, If your reading this, I did take this through the proper channels, To NO avail, Sorry Bob, Trevor and his 2 Amigos are way past their best before date and need to be removed, The list of competitors and volunteers that will not attend AMCC events due to their inconsistent and unsafe officialing is growing daily.

I appreciate that is your opinion which you more than entitled to. We can agree to disagree & it need not affect things between us.

[Shaun Harris]

cool. I didn't see you up on your hobby horse when Cros was riding around Wanganui helmet less doing wheelstands a couple of years ago.

Maybe you didn't have grief with MNZ then so it was ok?

NO you did not, and you have NEVER seen me do a helmet less lap either

[Shaun Harris]

Fair post that man.

cheers, just thinking and acting for the long term good of our sport and future wanabe street races

[nodrog:Me]

NO you did not, and you have NEVER seen me do a helmet less lap either

Of course not, you were too busy cheating.

I doubt anybody will ever see you do a lap again.

[Billy]

How did I miss this post?

This post is just one big contradiction. In one breath you are saying its ok to do high speed wheelstands when you have been told not to (and it clearly states it on the entry form), and in the next breath you are saying its far too dangerous to have a helmetless parade lap at little more than walking speed?

You say the only ban is a full ban on all MNZ sanctioned meetings, but MNZ have only banned said rider from this event? I think that is well done by MNZ and they have acted in good faith by using their discretion with the punishment, after all they didn't have to be so lenient.

Or have I not read it correctly.

That last sentence is correct,I stated I did not agree with the members actions, It was the way the whole thing was handled that sucked, Last I heard he was taking it to the FIM,

Walking pace you say? Thats not was reported too me by a number who were present and I also believe a member of the NZSRA questioned Mr Heaphy at the prizegiving about how it was OK to run an unpermitted parade whereby some were seen to be doing stoppies and wheelies including burnouts, Photo evidence of which was on facebook with Trevor standing in the background watching.

[Billy]

I appreciate that is your opinion which you more than entitled to. We can agree to disagree & it need not affect things between us.

True that haha

[Billy]

slight curve ball to this Re the helmet less slow lap parade. The street races still come under the authority of the Police if there is a serious accident where some one gets hurt, so imagine if a fluke incident was to happen and a some one was seriously injured, how would that look for MNZ to have allowed people to ride vehicles on the street Illegally as such with a helmet mmm Extreme example yes, but shit can happen

Parade laps are approved at SOME street circuits, Paeroa is NOT one of them, I assume the difference between that and Wanganui is that Wangas is closed under the local council act 1972 and Paeroa is closed under the land transport act 1998 as the start finish straight is a state highway, Also, Even when there is permission granted for parade lap, It is not available ad hoc, It has too be on the permit application, Clearly in this case it was not.

[nodrog:Me]

....Walking pace you say? ......

yeah, it was more John Walker than Kim Dot Com.

Can you tell me how a permit is going to stop people doing burnouts and stoppies? Is it like when I register my dog it stops biting people?

[Drew]

cheers, just thinking and acting for the long term good of THEIR sport and future street races

Fixed that for ya, now read my signature!

[Billy]

yeah, it was more John Walker than Kim Dot Com.

Can you tell me how a permit is going to stop people doing burnouts and stoppies? Is it like when I register my dog it stops biting people?

Obviously, It stops nobody from doing anything,

It does however cover MNZ's butt with the police and coronial service and is a requirement for insurance purposes, You really should get more involved with the politics, So you don't have to keep relying on public forums for info

[nodrog:Me]

Obviously, It stops nobody from doing anything,

It does however cover MNZ's butt with the police and coronial service and is a requirement for insurance purposes, You really should get more involved with the politics, So you don't have to keep relying on public forums for info

Im not relying on anything, I know how it works, I was just curious to know why people think a permit makes everything safer.