MNZ rule changes for 2015

[Kickaha]

Maybe you could hook them up with your brain doctor for some tips?

That didn't seem to work that well for Shaun

[Shaun Harris]

That didn't seem to work that well for Shaun

it,s great to be different

[Billy]

I take exception to you sticking the boot into Trevor there Shaun.
The man is a passionate supporter of racing & gives a huge amount of his time to the sport in a thankless non racing role & is also the most reasonable & accommodating steward you could wish to have at a meeting without being an officious dickhead in any way. Sometimes he has to make big calls at very short notice & these are invariably right on the button, especially after a week of reflecting on them, long after the adrenaline & sweat have gone, example, canning round two at Paeroa this year.
Patrick knows why he was banned, & while I have plenty of time for both parties, Trev made the correct call based on what Gordon said earlier, although I'm not sure how he would sit with the analogy.

Sorry Bob,

Can't agree with much of your post other than the fact he has put in a huge amount of his time, He has been inconsistent in his decision making, The Paeroa life ban is a classic example, I was dragged into it earlier this year after being contacted by Biggles who was contacting me on behalf of the competitor, On further investigation it was discovered that there is NO life ban offered by MNZ for any single event, Its all or nothing, The event organiser was only to happy to have the competitor attend as was the AMCC president, While I didn't agree with the members actions, It was handled very badly by ALL involved and was driven by the usual suspects, Many other competitors have been allowed to perform wheelies AND stoppies at Paeroa over the years with no recourse, This guy was singled out from the outset by the oldboys club involved with AMCC and it escalated from there, I have a list a mile long of complaints from competitors and spectators alike in relation to the actions of this group, Including blatant disregard of competitors and spectators safety by way of turning a blind eye to the actions of the "Golden ones" while using a sledgehammer on others, In respect to Paeroa this year, He was not on the permit as an official therefore your comment re his call to abandon the event is baseless, UNLESS he was steering the ship from behind the scenes in which case he needs to explain the illegal and unpermitted "Helmetless parade lap" which included children, Also helmetless on the fuel tanks of some machines including sidecars ???? All which took place 12 months to the day from the last fatality at that circuit AND on a track they had declared UNSAFE to compete on,Yes Graham Bastow, If your reading this, I did take this through the proper channels, To NO avail, Sorry Bob, Trevor and his 2 Amigos are way past their best before date and need to be removed, The list of competitors and volunteers that will not attend AMCC events due to their inconsistent and unsafe officialing is growing daily.

[Billy]

all you are doing is making yourself look like a fuckin tool.

Retard.

Is he????

Or are you just so uninformed that you are unaware of the inconsistencies that have been occuring over the past 4 years, For example, If I didnt step in and intervene 2 years ago, The modern sidecars would be gone, The board at that stage, Including the President were involved in a bitter and personal conflict with some on the NZSCRA and wanted the sidecars gone, Yip I agree Shaun went the wrong way about this whole cheating thing AND under NO circumstances do I condone any form of cheating, But as has been the case under this President, Rather than looking at ways of preventing a further occurence, They are more focussed on beating their chests and pretending to be the big man, Ironically while some involved compete on questionable machinery themselves AND have a reputation for doing so amongst their peers, Seems to me that the board pre AGM were more focussed on running the organisation with poor decision making, Mostly based on personality with little or NO thought of commonsense, Absolutely anybody who speaks out is threatened with a ban of some form or another, Example, Following the recent article in the Herald about the MX o Nations, The usual knee jerk reaction was to request a ban of 5 years for Ben Townly and Josh Coppins, Simply because they were frustrated by the lack of communication or action by the MNZ board following a successful campaign in 2013. Thank christ the newly elected board members over rode that decision and are working VERY hard at cleaning up the way the board operates and disempowering those who were undermining the system.

[nodrog:Me]

Im fully aware Billy, and I agree with most of what you are saying. And you of all people should know that im not a fan of authorities making retarded decisions.

And I think everyone agrees that things need to change.

But the way you and shaun are going on makes you look like a couple of 14 year old school girls bitching on Facebook about the babysitting club they cant be a part of anymore.

Everybody is just going to tune out and think your a dick, like Kim Dot Com.

[Billy]

Im fully aware Billy, and I agree with most of what you are saying. And you of all people should know that im not a fan of authorities making retarded decisions.

And I think everyone agrees that things need to change.

But the way you and shaun are going on makes you look like a couple of 14 year old school girls bitching on Facebook about the babysitting club they cant be a part of anymore.

Everybody is just going to tune out and think your a dick, like Kim Dot Com.

Yip,

I'm aware of that and for that reason have not commented on the matter either on here or facebook for sometime. I have in the meantime been fielding calls in regard to stewarding issues at HD, Too be honest, I emailed the board directly as I stated I would earlier with a list of concerns and complaints and got the usual 3 line reply that was so far off the mark, It was just ridiculous, Previous to that I had decided I would just let it be as it really has no effect on me now as a non member but I was approached by someone whos in a position of power to carry on with it as they also were aware of the issues and they thought my input was relevant as the immediate past commissioner, The subjects I have brought up to date, Are only a very small percentage of the info I hold, However, If I released it all, It would be detrimental to the sport and I don't want to interfere or damage in anyway the improvements made over the past few years and the progress that Greg and the new board members are making going forward, Its important however that things are kept ticking over publicly as there are some important positions up for re election at AGM in May 2015.

[Shaun Harris]

Im fully aware Billy, and I agree with most of what you are saying. And you of all people should know that im not a fan of authorities making retarded decisions.

And I think everyone agrees that things need to change.

But the way you and shaun are going on makes you look like a couple of 14 year old school girls bitching on Facebook about the babysitting club they cant be a part of anymore.

Everybody is just going to tune out and think your a dick, like Kim Dot Com.

I am a dick but all already Knew that nodrog, but unless some one keeps the laundry out to be washed, the washing will not get done. There are a couple of dicks on the Board that need gone, and I am more than prepared to take the the abuse for what I have said I did to help high light the FACT that certain board members actually operate and think like they own MNZ. MNZ announced neally 3 months ago now that an enquirey will take place into what I said I did, then after that date exspired another post was put up on the MNZ site about Another enquirey taking place, there is NO ENQUIREY taking place at all, they ( Being the wankers that need gone) have NO Proof nor ground to stand on! O, and then in the last MNZ press release about it, Jim Tuckerman out write LYES by saying " I admitted to MNZ" That I did it hahaha yea write, he has just simply twisted words as per usual to suit him self as per normall.

I Notice MNZ have not announced an enquirey into Jim Tuckermans wife offering to credit money to my account to appeal a process that went down in March this year against a Panel that Jim is the ceo of? Very dam strange that was I thought. I also notice they do not hold enquireies into any of the ILLEGAL bikes some of the committee have allowed to race outside the rules. 3 members on the Board of MNZ are bringing the sport into disrepute big time, and unless that is exsposed and continuously talked about, it will end up light dust under the carpet which is what they are hoping will happen, well guess what hahahaha, I am an OLD has been with nothing to prove accept where my morals and ethics are at, ( And have also Prooved where a certain business operators morals and ethics are at with my original post on here) and can always get back on a bike or a chair when all this is dealt with.

MNZ Office WILL NOT and DO NOT even reply to my emails sent to them asking how the investigation is going, now I believe that is not the doing of Vicki alone! I believe Jim Tuckerman has once again stepped out side his roll and told her not too reply to me, which is 100% outside the constitution!

[nodrog:Me]

Sorry Bob,

Can't agree with much of your post other than the fact he has put in a huge amount of his time, He has been inconsistent in his decision making, The Paeroa life ban is a classic example, I was dragged into it earlier this year after being contacted by Biggles who was contacting me on behalf of the competitor, On further investigation it was discovered that there is NO life ban offered by MNZ for any single event, Its all or nothing, The event organiser was only to happy to have the competitor attend as was the AMCC president, While I didn't agree with the members actions, It was handled very badly by ALL involved and was driven by the usual suspects, Many other competitors have been allowed to perform wheelies AND stoppies at Paeroa over the years with no recourse, This guy was singled out from the outset by the oldboys club involved with AMCC and it escalated from there, I have a list a mile long of complaints from competitors and spectators alike in relation to the actions of this group, Including blatant disregard of competitors and spectators safety by way of turning a blind eye to the actions of the "Golden ones" while using a sledgehammer on others, In respect to Paeroa this year, He was not on the permit as an official therefore your comment re his call to abandon the event is baseless, UNLESS he was steering the ship from behind the scenes in which case he needs to explain the illegal and unpermitted "Helmetless parade lap" which included children, Also helmetless on the fuel tanks of some machines including sidecars ???? All which took place 12 months to the day from the last fatality at that circuit AND on a track they had declared UNSAFE to compete on,Yes Graham Bastow, If your reading this, I did take this through the proper channels, To NO avail, Sorry Bob, Trevor and his 2 Amigos are way past their best before date and need to be removed, The list of competitors and volunteers that will not attend AMCC events due to their inconsistent and unsafe officialing is growing daily.

How did I miss this post?

This post is just one big contradiction. In one breath you are saying its ok to do high speed wheelstands when you have been told not to (and it clearly states it on the entry form), and in the next breath you are saying its far too dangerous to have a helmetless parade lap at little more than walking speed?

You say the only ban is a full ban on all MNZ sanctioned meetings, but MNZ have only banned said rider from this event? I think that is well done by MNZ and they have acted in good faith by using their discretion with the punishment, after all they didn't have to be so lenient.

Or have I not read it correctly.

[Drew]

How did I miss this post?

This post is just one big contradiction. In one breath you are saying its ok to do high speed wheelstands when you have been told not to (and it clearly states it on the entry form), and in the next breath you are saying its far too dangerous to have a helmetless parade lap at little more than walking speed?

You say the only ban is a full ban on all MNZ sanctioned meetings, but MNZ have only banned said rider from this event? I think that is well done by MNZ and they have acted in good faith by using their discretion with the punishment, after all they didn't have to be so lenient.

Or have I not read it correctly.

At the discretion of the clerk of the course, and rider can be excluded from a meeting. This is not a ban, it's just a warning for someone to pull their head in.

There seems to be an allowance in the MNZ rules to exclude a rider for any amount of time, but it has to be specified.

Oh yeah. Wheelies are cool, and parade laps are gay. No one wants to see the racers faces! You looked in a mirror lately? I have, and people would do well to look away form the fucken pair of us!

[nodrog:Me]

...... You looked in a mirror lately? I have, and people would do well to look away form the fucken pair of us!

Fuck, imagine if we were a team, it would be hideous.

[Drew]

Fuck, imagine if we were a team, it would be hideous.

You lose a front tooth, and Al will fucken near have to trade half a share in our team for what you got. Just so we can be a team!

[nodrog:Me]

You lose a front tooth, and Al will fucken near have to trade half a share in our team for what you got. Just so we can be a team!

Dude I will struggle to find somebody to get rid of a tooth for me.

[Drew]

Dude I will struggle to find somebody to get rid of a tooth for me.

Ugly as fuck or not, you are a loveable chap.

[Shaun Harris]

How did I miss this post?

This post is just one big contradiction. In one breath you are saying its ok to do high speed wheelstands when you have been told not to (and it clearly states it on the entry form), and in the next breath you are saying its far too dangerous to have a helmetless parade lap at little more than walking speed?

You say the only ban is a full ban on all MNZ sanctioned meetings, but MNZ have only banned said rider from this event? I think that is well done by MNZ and they have acted in good faith by using their discretion with the punishment, after all they didn't have to be so lenient.

Or have I not read it correctly.

slight curve ball to this Re the helmet less slow lap parade. The street races still come under the authority of the Police if there is a serious accident where some one gets hurt, so imagine if a fluke incident was to happen and a some one was seriously injured, how would that look for MNZ to have allowed people to ride vehicles on the street Illegally as such with a helmet mmm Extreme example yes, but shit can happen

[Drew]

slight curve ball to this Re the helmet less slow lap parade. The street races still come under the authority of the Police if there is a serious accident where some one gets hurt, so imagine if a fluke incident was to happen and a some one was seriously injured, how would that look for MNZ to have allowed people to ride vehicles on the street Illegally as such with a helmet mmm Extreme example yes, but shit can happen

It can with wheelies too you brain dead motherfucker! But Lance is the only cunt I know who ever got in trouble for those!