Stupid World

[oldrider]

Dont get me started on the price of beer in this country

Solved that problem ... just stopped drinking it!

[Brian d marge]

Solved that problem ... just stopped drinking it!

Im not into Enemas ...just yet

[avgas]

So 10 years ago, life was good, and we thought it was worse than 10 years prior.
So 10 years from now we are really fucked.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/...ectid=11337072

[yokel]

when the change comes will the Ipad/phone zombies survive?

[mashman]

when the change comes will the Ipad/phone zombies survive?

Amen Mr Perkins.

[Brian d marge]

Im thinking the best way to get rid of the idiots is non compliance . .
By all means live in society pay ya rates etc taxes
But come off and away from the utilities and shackles that bind
Solar panel usage is pissing the power companies off in america due to the increased usage and the fact they have to pay for the electricity generated . . Expand on this further could this be appiled to other area . .water sewerage food gasoline health

Ive a small solar system and my hydroponics has been a success and seeing the effect of non compliance overseas , and in the past

Reckon its time for another bout

Just a thought

[oldrider]

Solar panel usage is pissing the power companies off in america due to the increased usage and the fact they have to pay for the electricity generated . . Expand on this further could this be appiled to other area . .water sewerage food gasoline health

Probably ... Yes!

You can do anything these days (specially since deregulation in NZ) but you have to figure in the payback over time or you lose money!

Another thing installers often overlook is the maintenance and reliability when you have to do it yourself it can be an unforseen bind.

The closer you are to a utility company supply the less attractive the return usually!

[Brian d marge]

Probably ... Yes!

You can do anything these days (specially since deregulation in NZ) but you have to figure in the payback over time or you lose money!

Another thing installers often overlook is the maintenance and reliability when you have to do it yourself it can be an unforseen bind.

The closer you are to a utility company supply the less attractive the return usually!

My wee system was easy to install it was desgned for a solar farm
Cheap as to
Its not designed to go on the roof

But the point and just my thought is

If you do not need to rely on shackles such as gosoline or electricity

And maintain a reasonable lifestyle . . . I dont watch tv and make own beer etc . . . The internet i would have to pay for. . .

How much of a hold on ya would the man have

Would there be any point to it as new zealand is still pretty good if ya have the basics covered . . .house food etc

And if people helped others to remove the shackles as per above . . How much effect would that have on the men in the ministry.

Just a thought

[jonbuoy]

My wee system was easy to install it was desgned for a solar farm
Cheap as to
Its not designed to go on the roof

But the point and just my thought is

If you do not need to rely on shackles such as gosoline or electricity

And maintain a reasonable lifestyle . . . I dont watch tv and make own beer etc . . . The internet i would have to pay for. . .

How much of a hold on ya would the man have

Would there be any point to it as new zealand is still pretty good if ya have the basics covered . . .house food etc

And if people helped others to remove the shackles as per above . . How much effect would that have on the men in the ministry.

Just a thought

That´s great but you can´t make your own MRI scanner, Xray machine or cutting edge medicines and unless you want to ride on cart tracks and defend your wife kids and property from mobs of gangs with a shotgun 24 hours a day you still need a government and taxes for the day to day "running expenses" of a civilised society.

The only reason self sufficient is attractive is because you can feel like your sticking it to the "man" whilst living in a nice clean and safe society and know that if you turn up at the local A&E with your arm hanging off a nice Doctor will stitch it back on for you and he won´t even ask for a sack of potatoes in return.

If you had the option of never paying taxes/energy bills and being completely self sufficient - would you be prepared to give up the use of:

Police
Fire
Healthcare
All benefits
Schooling

[Brian d marge]

How do you know that. We havent been able to try it
Linux ( open source ) seems to be working
I do however know that societys tend to breakdown at around the 200 persons mark and it may be for this reason alone that the idea wont work.

I think ( not sure) you can see this phenomenon in action with yahoo groups , kinda communities in miniture


Stephen

[Akzle]

If you had the option of never paying taxes/energy bills and being completely self sufficient - would you be prepared to give up the use of:

Police
Fire
Healthcare
All benefits
Schooling

(you have an artificially limited comprehension of life, but thats another story)

yes! I would.
What box do i tick? Where is the option to opt out?

And the firefighters round here are VOLUNTEERS so your precious govt doesnt pay a pretty penny to help those who need it.

[Brian d marge]

The only sticking point i see is health care
Wonder if it could go open source ????

[bogan]

The only sticking point i see is health care
Wonder if it could go open source ????

Not quite sure you understand the concept of open source

Serf around webmd for a while and you might understand why we need professionals for that.

(you have an artificially limited comprehension of life, but thats another story)

yes! I would.
What box do i tick? Where is the option to opt out?

And the firefighters round here are VOLUNTEERS so your precious govt doesnt pay a pretty penny to help those who need it.

You know that would go both ways right, you'd stop being able to sponge off the benefit. Since you don't pay taxes, one wonders why you can't just do it anyway, why do you need to tick a box, just stop picking up your benefit checks and instead go self sufficient.

[Brian d marge]

Not quite sure you understand the concept of open source

Serf around webmd for a while and you might understand why we need professionals for that.



You know that would go both ways right, you'd stop being able to sponge off the benefit. Since you don't pay taxes, one wonders why you can't just do it anyway, why do you need to tick a box, just stop picking up your benefit checks and instead go self sufficient.

Sorry i do know

You still need dumbarses to use the product and provide feedback

If i designed motorbikes as i would like without customer feed back you lot would still be on royal enfield singles

[oldrider]

My wee system was easy to install it was desgned for a solar farm
Cheap as to
Its not designed to go on the roof

But the point and just my thought is

If you do not need to rely on shackles such as gosoline or electricity

And maintain a reasonable lifestyle . . . I dont watch tv and make own beer etc . . . The internet i would have to pay for. . .

How much of a hold on ya would the man have

Would there be any point to it as new zealand is still pretty good if ya have the basics covered . . .house food etc

And if people helped others to remove the shackles as per above . . How much effect would that have on the men in the ministry.

Just a thought

I notice that there are getting to be more and more people around here (across the provinces) installing their own solar systems!

Most appear to be doing it "because they can" so it is also a hobby type of interest ... I.E. "Fun"! ... My opinion, if you can go for it!