There is none.
Passing or overtaking are not filtering.
Filtering specific law works in many other countries. Why not here?
Moped rider
There is none.
Passing or overtaking are not filtering.
Filtering specific law works in many other countries. Why not here?
Ta
So using the current overtaking laws, it is possible to filter legally. Why does this need changed?Originally Posted by catharsis
I've been ticketed for doing it wrongly, but filtered past heaps of cops without issue.
Que?
So you'd still be happy at 20km/hr then?
Hardcore Biker
Not really sure what point you were making in the above reply.
Basing the proposal on legislation in Australia where a speed limit was imposed along with licensing restrictions (full license only) is more likely to be supported by the TSA & Police.
The reason I chose to filter or lane split is when very little progress is being made and it's not going to hinder the flow of traffic. If progress is being made by other vehicles on the road the risks are greater with higher speeds & vehicles changing their position or closing gaps in the lanes. It's also more likely to piss the drivers off.
Meow
Question:
When it says "Shoulder" is it meaning the part between the barrier and the right hand lane? Cause that area is full of debris that is just a puncture waiting to happen.
What's the point in living if you don't feel alive?
Toying with ones mortality shouldn't be this much fun.
Senior Grumpy Old Bastard
it's not SUPPOSED to be a 'barrel of laughs'?? You are executing a 'high risk' maneuver, no matter how you justify it...
When I had a Popo instructor in the UK on a course, his comment to the class was... Although they dont fully condone lane splitting in moving traffic.. the 'general rule' they used themselves was, 50kph (30mph) moving traffic... dont filter/split, stay in the flow. Below 50kph, do not exceed their speed by 10-15mph (say 20kph).
Once a car reaches 50kph, if the driver decided to 'dive into a gap beside him (directly in front of you), you wont have enough reaction time.
Yes we all (guilty) exceed that sometime or other... but when I see bikes diving between cars doing 70kph or more (so the bike's doing 80-90)? If I was Mr Filter Nazi Popo... I'd be dishing out a few lectures and tickets.
If the road to hell is paved with good intentions; and a man is judged by his deeds and his actions, why say it's the thought that counts? -GrayWolf
Hardcore Biker
By convention in the direction of travel (left to right) : Verge - Shoulder - Lane 1 ... Lane .... Lane - Central Reserve
Senior Grumpy Old Bastard
I dont usually reply to red rep, and not in a post
however.....
you obviously are far more knowledgeable and highly trained than a UK Police rider..... Which I certainly dont claim to be
if I'm a 'thick c*nt".... go look in the mirror numbnuts.
If the road to hell is paved with good intentions; and a man is judged by his deeds and his actions, why say it's the thought that counts? -GrayWolf
Meow
That doesn't sound right. Cause then it would interferer with on/off ramps.
If they let us use the big bus way on the Northern then that would make things a lot easier. But I could see people using it as a drag strip.
What's the point in living if you don't feel alive?
Toying with ones mortality shouldn't be this much fun.
Hardcore Biker
Sorry, I don't understand your reply.
Meow
Ok so if your looking down on the motorway you have 3 lanes. On either side of lane 1 and 3 there is a gap between the lane and the barrier, which is usually where you can pull over if you have an accident or sometimes where the emergency services will go if its bumper to bumper traffic. I would call the one on the right hand side the "shoulder", which in this picture is grass but lets pretend its not, and the one on the left the "pull over" area (where you pull over if you get pulled over by the police). That part however isn't a constant as on and off ramps go from lane 1. So if you were riding in that area you would have to go into lane 1 every time there was an on/off ramp.
Either of those areas are usually filled with stuff- broken glass, bolts, rubbish, tyre shreds from previous accidents. I've been on the on/off ramp part before (between the onramp and the 1st lane of traffic) and got a puncture from what I think was a nail.
What's the point in living if you don't feel alive?
Toying with ones mortality shouldn't be this much fun.
Hardcore Biker
The left is referred to as the shoulder and the right is referred to as the central reservation.
Ok so if your looking down on the motorway you have 3 lanes. On either side of lane 1 and 3 there is a gap between the lane and the barrier, which is usually where you can pull over if you have an accident or sometimes where the emergency services will go if its bumper to bumper traffic. I would call the one on the right hand side the "shoulder", which in this picture is grass but lets pretend its not, and the one on the left the "pull over" area (where you pull over if you get pulled over by the police). That part however isn't a constant as on and off ramps go from lane 1. So if you were riding in that area you would have to go into lane 1 every time there was an on/off ramp.
Either of those areas are usually filled with stuff- broken glass, bolts, rubbish, tyre shreds from previous accidents. I've been on the on/off ramp part before (between the onramp and the 1st lane of traffic) and got a puncture from what I think was a nail.
Que?
According to the petition organiser you must also be living in a crap area as those areas where he lives are perfectly clean.
Two Wheels or Three = FUN
He lives in Dorkland...nuff saidAccording to the petition organiser you must also be living in a crap area as those areas where he lives are perfectly clean.
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When the initial concept was raised and pimped around to garner support to fund the northern busway, bikes were allowed to use it.
Then it was built and quickly the bussists' wanted to play with their toy without anyone else being allowed to play on it.
Perhaps a better petition to take to the politicians, would be one calling for bikes to be allowed to use the northern busway (as initially promised)?
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