Police getting tougher on speed tolerance

[willytheekid]

and that would be the majority of New Zealanders who received their one and only driver training from their equally unskilled parents, cuzzies and boyfriends etc.

People loose their lives and limbs in NZ because a. peeps drive like there is a war - me first, tail gaiting, queue jumping, b. they drive to fast - but then there are roads that have a limit of 100 that are basically donkey tracks - so go figure why no one is actually establishing speeding limits that are sensible, c. no one that drives a vehicle gives a flying poo about pedestrians - young or old, no one gives a flying shit about bicyclists, or for that matter motor bikes.

so how about the Police would argue for

a. compulsory driving/riding lessons with a proper test (i.e. tester and driving teacher in the car with the learner)
b. make driver licenses 'on probation' for two years (any infractions and one goes back to paying driving lessons)
c. create smarter speed limits, i.e. 10 km school zone, 30 km suburban areas with kids on the street, 50 km inner city, 80 km motorway innercity, 80 open road - donkey trail, 100 km standard motorway, 130 km major highways
d. have some smart advertising about merging into traffic (holland had a good ad on tv about merging like a zip), keeping distance in rain/fog etc. etc etc etc
e. use led signs to alert drivers of slowing down speeds when the motorways feeding into the city are clocked etc. etc etc.

all that would make more sense, than enforcing a 0 km tolerance that will only manage to reduce the speed limit by 10 km as everyone is going to not get a ticket, with the result that peeps are bored, tired, etc and will cause accidents.

...how DARE you bring commonsense and a well thought out plan that would ACTUALLY effect road safety into this!

But we both know the answer why not...
There way = easy revenue, well paid jobs for the Govt boys & there mates, and the passing of even more "laws" to ensure we are all "safe"
Your way = expenditure, actual planning and management abilities with real accountability...and far to much hard work!



besides

...Goberments current "plan" is right on track THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

[unstuck]

Most people are completely stupid and refuse to take any responsibility for their life, bumbling along blaming everyone around them for the way the world is.
YOU are responsible for society, YOU, not your fuckin neighbour, not the cops, not the government, not your teachers or parents YOU. Responsibility.......... Your ability to respond.......Get right with yourself before you start playing the victim card. Muppets.

[Big Dog]

Now there's something that could REALLY save lives, reduce congestion and boost the economy. BAN all private vehicles (and company wagons not on business time) from towing boats caravans and trailers to the tip.
If you can afford a boat you can afford to park it at the Marina and join the boatclub, double win there as you'll get some marine safety training to.
All the holiday parks have cheap cabins now, it makes no economic sense to own a caravan and suffer the fuel use from towing it.
The last three consecutive major holiday periods I've seen caravans and boat trailers with sheared off wheels from stud breakage or nuts come loose. Miracle no one been killed.

Nah, that goes to far. I would like to see a trailer license for tandem axle or weight class trailers. I have to carry none to drive an artic why should joe consumer be allowed to tow any old rented crap without proving themselves competent? Any idiot can tow a 2x3. Lots can't reverse it. Put the garden waste on. No problem. Put furniture on without an understanding of weight distribution...



Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[FJRider]

'To protect and Serve' it's a moto
Public servant a vocational job

You're welcome

I think you've been watching too much TV ....

Actually ... The New Zealand Police motto is Safer Communities Together ... are you one of the many in NZ that dial 911 in and emergency .. ???

[Scuba_Steve]

I think you've been watching too much TV ....

Actually ... The New Zealand Police motto is Safer Communities Together ... are you one of the many in NZ that dial 911 in and emergency .. ???

Well they're severely failing on that moto too... Shit thing is 911 actually works nowadays, welcome to the United States I mean New Zealand

[FJRider]

.. Shit thing is 911 actually works nowadays ...

With the high number of people in New Zealand dialing 911 ... they (Telecom) changed the system to allow it ....



Who said TV has NO effect on your way of thinking ... ??

[rastuscat]

Same old thought came back to me today.

We decry the standard of driving in Noo Zeeland. Awful drivers, we say. Worst in the world.

Then we defend their right to go faster.

Darwinism in action. Let bad drivers go faster.

[FJRider]

Same old thought came back to me today.

We decry the standard of driving in Noo Zeeland. Awful drivers, we say. Worst in the world.

Then we defend their right to go faster.

Darwinism in action. Let bad drivers go faster.

It's not OUR own bad driving that might kill ... it's everyone Else's bad driving that is the problem ...

[rastuscat]

It's not OUR own bad driving that might kill ... it's everyone Else's bad driving that is the problem ...

Cool. That explains it.

Every crash is someone else's fault. And bad driving is done by everyone else.

Doesn't change the fact that if you're going a bit slower when someone else does bad driving to you you'll be better off.

[scumdog]

The 21st century syndrome - It's always 'somebody elses' fault and responsibility....

[awayatc]

Doesn't change the fact that if you're going a bit slower when someone else does bad driving to you you'll be better off.

Like having a discussion with a 3 year old......

if they would ever replace traffic cops with robots......we would never be able to tell the difference.....

Good boy rastus....you actualy believe the drivel you regurgitate....
well done....
teach is proud of her little pussycat......

[rastuscat]

Like having a discussion with a 3 year old......

if they would ever replace traffic cops with robots......we would never be able to tell the difference.....

Good boy rastus....you actualy believe the drivel you regurgitate....
well done....
teach is proud of her little pussycat......

So, I'm guessing you're suggesting it's better to be going faster when you hit something?

Of course, it's better not to crash at all, but given the virtual inevitability of it, is it really better to crash at higher speed?

[Scuba_Steve]

Same old thought came back to me today.

We decry the standard of driving in Noo Zeeland. Awful drivers, we say. Worst in the world.

Then we defend their right to go faster.

Darwinism in action. Let bad drivers go faster.

Yea well people constantly scanning for popo & watching their speedo in between coffee slurps don't exactly make for good drivers no; but they're a result of bad road management from licensing to road infrastructure to inforcement...

just remember in a few years (if you're still part of the popo gang) you'll probably be out arresting anyone riding a motorised bike based on the idea that they're dangerous then you'll be able to say

"we decry the cost to the ACC bikers incur, dangerous vehicles they are. Death machines

Then we defend their right to travel they way they want

Darwinism in action. Let people ride."


Just remember they'll try & ban bikes for the same reasons they're trying to kill "speed"

[Scuba_Steve]

So, I'm guessing you're suggesting it's better to be going faster when you hit something?

Of course, it's better not to crash at all, but given the virtual inevitability of it, is it really better to crash at higher speed?

if it's into another vehicle & the 2 vehicles are in all other ways equal then yes...
But still I like the idea severely decreasing chances of a crash by removing the speed scam

[scumdog]

Just remember they'll try & ban bikes for the same reasons they're trying to kill "speed"

They'll probably ban bikes first - bothersome unnecessary machines whos riders crash too frequently ergo cost the country far too much money. Pretty much sums it up eh?
And no, you can't try to say 'it's not always the riders fault' because that's irrelevant, they cost way to much regardless whose fault it is.