Scooters are depressing

[jasonu]

Y'all mahfuckers know there's this thing called the "ignore" button, right?

Don't be stupid. This is the best thread since Shaun Harris admitted to cheating.

[Murray]

Wrong, we think that you should ride so as to ensure there is (within reason), so as to minimise the risk of accident.

You seem to advocate the opposite approach, that there isn't always going to be time to react, so why bother trying to ensure there is at all. No wonder you have enough accidents under your belt to subcategorise em!

Don't be stupid. This is the best thread since Shaun Harris admitted to cheating.

I would agree with both those comments

[BuzzardNZ]

Don't be stupid. This is the best thread since Shaun Harris admitted to cheating.

I doubt anything will ever top the I cheated thread.

[jasonu]

I doubt anything will ever top the I cheated thread.

Yep that will be hard to top.

[haydes55]

If you are dumb enough to think I don't try and avoid accidents when others screw up you are wrong its just that sometimes things as I said can happen too quick to even brake. You are now trying to claim that I said that there is "NEVER" any time to try and avoid accidents when others screw up eh!!!

The point everyone tries telling you is, by being vigilant and trying to spot early signs of other drivers fucking up, you can make allowances in your current path to be in a better position to avoid an accident if the other person actually ends up fucking up.

If all of your accidents happened because you had no time to brake.... Then I'd counter to say you weren't being vigilant enough and missed the signs. Yes, you may have been in the right, their insurance paid you out and the cops ticketed the other person..... But you still ended up eating asphalt.

[bogan]

If you are dumb enough to think I don't try and avoid accidents when others screw up you are wrong its just that sometimes things as I said can happen too quick to even brake. You are now trying to claim that I said that there is "NEVER" any time to try and avoid accidents when others screw up eh!!!

They happen a lot quicker if you go in unprepared though. Anyone will try and avoid an accident once it is imminent; but defensive riding is about not being in that position to begin with. If you have accidents that happen too quick to even brake you are clearly not riding in a defensive fashion.

Learn to read, plebby; I claimed nothing of the sort.

[bogan]

It was because I was on a bike and nothing to too with failing to see any "signs" that I hit the road.

Didn't you tuck the front and rear end some cunt who was braking? Pretty sure all vehicles are equipped with some bright red things to act as signage to avoid such an occurrence.

[bogan]

I said it was a head on. For it to be rear end he would have had to be coming off the bridge in front on me. I am now getting the impression you are not as bright as you think you are to decide what I said was a head on was a rear end collision. Or are you just on the piss or drugs this afternoon???

You also said you were on your bike, while the bridge head on was in your car wasn't it? or are there a couple that category too? In any case, I'm referring to one you mentioned a while back, open up you accident files, subcategory 'motorcycle vs car', subcategory 'my fault'; though I suspect it may have been misfiled under 'their fault' or 'act of god'...

[Madness]

[BlackSheepLogic]

If after an accident you believe you were 100% right (it was all someone else fault), or you believe it was an unavoidable situation (nothing could have been done) you will in similar circumstances have that accident again.

It was because I was on a bike and nothing to too with failing to see any "signs" that I hit the road. As for the time I was in my car coming off the one way bridge I would have seen him sooner if I had been on my bike or a 4WD and not a low sports coupe but there still would have been no way out. You will need to be in a crash where things happen too fast to see any "signs" before you understand my argument but enjoy keeping on believing such a crash could never happen. You will no doubt give up riding when/if it does I bet.

[bogan]

The time when I hit a car on my bike the car was parked on the side of the road and did a u turn in front of me. In future read my old posts again as your memory is not the best when you try and conceive accident scenarios that I have never stated happened but that's the effect of what you are on perhaps eh!!

Wrong file again I think, which was the accident that caused you to be scared of locking the front end when doing emergency stops?

Maybe you should upgrade your filing system?

[Akzle]

Wrong file again I think, which was the accident that caused you to be scared of locking the front end when doing emergency stops?

Maybe you should upgrade your filing system?

[IMG]

hly fknshit... wait! zoom out!

yep, that's his mum's basement!

[haydes55]

And you could have the same sort of accident happen to you. I am not the only person who has ever hit a dog on the road or who has been in a u turn accident or head on collision. If you think such an accident could never happen to you you are a fool and the same goes for the others on this site that think the same.

You're right, those situations happen to other people too..... Other people manage to avoid crashing in those same situations. So it must be avoidable.

[BlackSheepLogic]

I think you missed the point.

And you could have the same sort of accident happen to you. I am not the only person who has ever hit a dog on the road or who has been in a u turn accident or head on collision. If you think such an accident could never happen to you you are a fool and the same goes for the others on this site that think the same.

[Big Dog]

I think you missed the point.

Or we understand that point and counter with it being our responsibility to do our utmost to avoid said situation.
We acknowledge that we personally will not be able to avoid every single situation but believe all situations are avoidable.
It is only a question then of:
Does the rider / driver in the given situation have the necessary tools for the job?
Is the driver / rider in that situation willing to do everything in their power to avoid a situation in the first place?
What is the balance on that vs never going riding?

People have been run over by locomotives while sleeping in their beds. So far I have avoided this, for those that have been run over this was "unavoidable" so which is true is it unavoidable or avoidable?
Clearly those who sleep in homes near railway tracks have done more to avoid this fate than a homeless person sleeping on the tracks in a rarely used tunnel.
Someone who lives further from the railway has done even more to mitigate the risk.
Each has chosen an exposure level.