Police getting tougher on speed tolerance

[FJRider]

... If you do get pulled over, for goodness sake, don't fail the attitude test or one may find oneself in possesion of a ticket for 1km/h over.

Plus a few for "other" issues with your vehicle that you forgot about ... or didn't know about.

It could be the difference between ... A "A demand for some of your funds" ... or a compliance notice ...


Tough choice ... eh .. !!!

[scumdog]

It isn't happening. A short chat with the National Traffic Superintendant reveals that the 1km over thing is a media beat up of the worst kind.

I tried to tell all the Chicken Littles on KB that - but it didn't work....all I got was slagged off for being bluidey sarcarstic!

It amazed me how many people hung onto the 1kph tolerance myth for so long.. eeeh, nowt as strange as fowk!

[Madness]

It amazed me how many people hung onto the 1kph tolerance myth for so long..

These days it seems some will use any excuse to throw their hands in the air, sign a partition, fly a flag and blindly protest by filling all available car parks in a busy shopping precinct.

Meh.

I'd rather go for a ride.

[Big Dog]

Where that actually has been done what you end up with is fewer accidents and better behaviour, immediately.

So why aren't we doing that?

It was supposed to be tounge in cheek... with a wonderment to how long exactly before Aucklanders started starving to death on the motorways.

I have to say though the areas I have lived in that don't have law enforcement representatives (Urenui we got a community copper once a month for 1-2 days) we might have witnessed more drink driving ( separate but very important issue in my mind ) but:
* a shitload less speeding
* no-one ran the only 2 give ways in "town"
* everyone pulled over to let faster moving drivers through
* No one was ever in a rush to get anywhere.
* everyone indicates.

The downsides:
* not uncommon to come around a 100km blind corner to find a couple of cars stopped in the middle of the road chatting out the drivers windows.
* not uncommon to find out that someone rung your dad about the way you were driving on the way home.
* if you do something "thick" you will get a bit of grief at the pub.
* only places the speed limit is observed is outside the school / kindy and the golf course.

[BlackSheepLogic]

Try driving in a shit hole like Egypt. There were traffic police but they mostly directed traffic at grid locked intersections. Free for all where bigger wins every time.

It was supposed to be tounge in cheek... with a wonderment to how long exactly before Aucklanders started starving to death on the motorways.

I have to say though the areas I have lived in that don't have law enforcement representatives (Urenui we got a community copper once a month for 1-2 days) we might have witnessed more drink driving ( separate but very important issue in my mind ) but:
* a shitload less speeding
* no-one ran the only 2 give ways in "town"
* everyone pulled over to let faster moving drivers through
* No one was ever in a rush to get anywhere.
* everyone indicates.

The downsides:
* not uncommon to come around a 100km blind corner to find a couple of cars stopped in the middle of the road chatting out the drivers windows.
* not uncommon to find out that someone rung your dad about the way you were driving on the way home.
* if you do something "thick" you will get a bit of grief at the pub.
* only places the speed limit is observed is outside the school / kindy and the golf course.

[roogazza]

My thinking is to always ignore the speed limit when overtaking as a fine and even loss of license is a lot cheaper than risking a head on to avoid a ticket.

Get up it and get past and nowdays more than ever have your eyes peeled.
I ain't hanging out to dry worrying about the speedo .
My Radar detector (safety device) helps too.
But hey, you get nabbed, you pay the fee.

[Ocean1]

Yeah but we ARE talking about New Zealanders here...

Who, in spite of arguments to the contrary respond to rules in exactly the same manner as every other western culture.

Badly.

And given the preponderance of Celtic heritage probably worse than average.

It was supposed to be tounge in cheek....

The reply was more in the line of a statement of fact. One easily demonstrated if you've a mind to suspend your blame cultured corporate enforcement conditioning and actually look.

I have to say though the areas I have lived in that don't have law enforcement representatives (Urenui we got a community copper once a month for 1-2 days) we might have witnessed more drink driving ( separate but very important issue in my mind ) but:
* a shitload less speeding
* no-one ran the only 2 give ways in "town"
* everyone pulled over to let faster moving drivers through
* No one was ever in a rush to get anywhere.
* everyone indicates.

The downsides:
* not uncommon to come around a 100km blind corner to find a couple of cars stopped in the middle of the road chatting out the drivers windows.
* not uncommon to find out that someone rung your dad about the way you were driving on the way home.
* if you do something "thick" you will get a bit of grief at the pub.
* only places the speed limit is observed is outside the school / kindy and the golf course.

Exactly. Common sense prevails, same as it did before the gestaposisation of the road rules.

Which is in no way a claim that a common sense approach is "safer". It's simply recognising where the responsibility lies.

You can change the behaviour of a culture by reiterative carrot/stick policing. But whoever the fuck thinks they have the right to do so can garn get fukctd.

[Scuba_Steve]

Yeah.

People are really shitty drivers. Lets have them go faster.

Nice.

Still a better idea then

People are really shitty drivers. Lets have ignore the road completely & watch a speedo instead.


Also you'll find when people have to drive [read: think] for themselves they become much better at it... As the roads have become stupider so have the drivers

[Paul in NZ]

It isn't happening. A short chat with the National Traffic Superintendant reveals that the 1km over thing is a media beat up of the worst kind. All that was said is that the speed limit is 100 km/hr and we'd like people setting their cruise control to 110 to stop doing that please. Unlike other holiday periods recently there's been no mention of the 104 limit, yet, but I wouldn't blame them for doing that now. If you are travelling at more than 8% over the speed limit in any zone, you'll get a ticket.

And yes, this Super is one of us and he is actually a good bloke, but is rapidly developing a "fuck you cyst" in regard to the "media".

If you do get pulled over, for goodness sake, don't fail the attitude test or one may find oneself in possesion of a ticket for 1km/h over.

Look - I don't disagree and of course I'm always reasonable with people at the workface.

BUT - what I think happens is that this shit gets leaked to the media as a wee tester to see how people will react and therefore I intend to get as hot and bothered as all get out when it bugs me and this shit DOES bug me... I'm sick being made to feel guilty or responsible for shit like violence to kids or women or road deaths... Its bollocks

[Madness]

At least it's cost the taxpayer less than a glossy Saatchi & Saatchi multimedia campaign would have, probably provoked more thought and discussion too. There's gubbermint propaganda everywhere these days, just tune it out.

[rastuscat]

Just some facts.

When the tolerance was standardised at 10 kmh, the policy was that anyone doing 1 - 10 over was to be stopped and warned, and anyone doing 11 or more over was to be tagged.

Nobody ever bought into the warning part, as we've been told for years that warnings don't work.

So people developed an expectation that they could drive around up to 10 kmh over any limit and not be stopped. Look at the effect that had. People are now choking at the idea of a 4 km'h tolerance.

People lost sight of the fact that the number in black digits on the round sign with the red border was the speed limit. Hell, we would stop people at 61 in a 50, and they'd grizzle that they were being ticketed after only being 1 over the tolerance. Like, they wanted a tolerance on the tolerance !!

What the management said a couple of weeks back is that it's high time folk stopped expecting a tolerance, and driving to it. The fourth estate took that to mean nil tolerance, when that was never stated. What we are going to stop doing is telling people it's okay to exceed the limit.

I mean, how about we say it's okay to shop lift as long as you don't pinch anything worth more than $2. A stretch, but you get the point.

We get funded to enforce the speed limit. Yet we decide how fast people can go. Sheesh. We actually created that expectation.

It's the pain of trying to "uncreate" it that hurts.

[unstuck]

. Yet we decide how fats people can go.

Your not doing well there either then, cos there are still plenty of fat buggers around.

[rastuscat]

Your not doing well there either then, cos there are still plenty of fat buggers around.

Meh, my bad. Fixed it for ya.

[skippa1]

[QUOTE=rastuscat;1130800055]

We get funded to enforce the speed limit

yet the same enforcers break it at will.....

Yet we decide how fats people can go. Sheesh.

what you mean is you can travel in excess of the speed limit, but if you have had a shitty day you can issue a ticket for the exact same behaviour

We actually created that expectation.

What has been created is a band of moody fuckin hypocrites that can't adhere to the very Rules they enforce

[scumdog]

People lost sight of the fact that the number in black digits on the round sign with the red border was the speed limit. Hell, we would stop people at 61 in a 50, and they'd grizzle that they were being ticketed after only being 1 over the tolerance. Like, they wanted a tolerance on the tolerance !!

Haha, how often did I hear that sort of explanation "Jesus Christ, I was only doing 4kph over the limit" when someone was pulled over for doing 114kph.