Well I'll steer clear of references to the Titanic in the future that's for sureOriginally Posted by Ulsterkiwi
lol, you should see me when I am upset
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Well I'll steer clear of references to the Titanic in the future that's for surelol, you should see me when I am upset
Hardcore Biker
Speaking of Ireland, the Alegra used to be run by Irish ferries, on both Dublin and Rosslare routes
"For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen" Douglas Adams (1952-2001) - not riding a TUONO then!
Forum whore
the fact they no longer operate this vessel should tell you something.....
Life is not measured by how many breaths you take, but how many times you have your breath taken away
Hardcore Biker
Both times they shifted it on they did so for bigger ships
"For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen" Douglas Adams (1952-2001) - not riding a TUONO then!
Kruger-Dunning Parts n Service
I'd rather be on the rocks than out in cook straight with no propulsion in a seven metre swell with no chance of rescue....Where did the Wahine come a cropper again?
Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket - Eric Hoffer
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
I laughed at the trucking industry today. All the BS over cattle trucks and their effluent holding tanks being so effective now...
The truck was pouring shit all over the road.
As we crossed over the Newmarket viaduct!
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
I'ma get medieval on your ass!
Excellent replies guys, thanks. Nobody seems to have a strong explanation for the Stena Alegra choice apart from the reality that we already have it, and a new ferry is very expensive. $250 million.
Air New Zealand is buying Dreamliners at US$200 million each. Air is still majority government owned.
Kiwi Rail is 100% government owned. If the govt can go along with $200 million (list price US$270 million) aircraft, then $250 for purpose built ferry sounds reasonable.
On the other hand Bluebridge do a good job as a private company and they won't get taxpayer money for new ferries. So putting more money into Kiwi Rail to compete with Bluebridge just doesn't seem right.
There are plenty of Ro-Ro ferries for purchase/lease around the globe - google ship brokers. Big suckers too ex-Japan.
Road-Rail ferries are fewer but are available.
One limitation is Cook Strait can be like the open ocean. Most ferries around the world operate in shallow stable seas close to large land masses. Those ferries don't need to be ocean going ships, so that's a significant limitation.
To the best of my knowledge the NZ Rail ferries have always been a profitable operation for decades - they have a near monopoly.
Kruger-Dunning Parts n Service
There's been a major improvement from previous years. I can guarantee about a dozen remuera tractors would have *555 him and he would have been ticketed at the bridge base.
In recent years transit has actually built some new dumping stations ironically they cost a fortune as they have to comply with all the govts own regulations and resource consents for sewerage etc...
Prob less shit on the road though than what certain foreign tourists leave in rest areas these days when freedom camping....
Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket - Eric Hoffer
Forum whore
http://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-e...in-ferry-refit
They discovered the source of the noise was the engine room and cargo fans...wonder how much someone got paid to 'investigate' that
It's annoying by comparison, but not that bad. I don't know where the guy lives but he should possibly try a few nights in Lyttelton.
Best Frenemy you could have!
Thought immediately of some jokes...They discovered the source of the noise was the engine room and cargo fans...wonder how much someone got paid to 'investigate' that
http://hajokes.com/view/Pilot-Engineer-humor
Forum whore
Aaaand, the Aratanic is, once again, broken down, sailings cancelled. Usual performace.
http://www.3news.co.nz/nznews/arater...#axzz3M8vukbIv
it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
(PostalDave on ADVrider)
I'ma get medieval on your ass!
Yeah Pete, noticed that. What a debacle.
How about this: the govt invests $200 million in Bluebridge for a 75% shareholding which helps fund a brand new ferry. Maybe just a ro-ro, no rail.
That way the existing underdog competitor gets a hand up but not a subsidy and the existing govt Kiwirail has to sort itself out or lose the Cook Strait work. Win win for transport, passengers, and taxpayers.
salty dog
For the money spend on lengthening Aratare a new ferry could have been bought.
lots of people at the time advised against the venture....
some people dont listen to common sense advise
chances are they still dont......
Opinions are like arseholes: Everybody has got one, but that doesn't mean you got to air it in public all the time....
Forum whore
they didnt have pay for the roads to be built or the maintenance theof....i know they pay through the nose, but if the true cost of that investment was actually paid for by the freight industry ......
salty dog
New plymouth is a port....
I can tell, coz there is this big puddle in the back....
As a port New Plymouth is capable of handling cargo by sea...
as we used to....
now however we get fuel being trucked in.....
not kidding....
the fuel comes all the way from a port on the other side of this island,
to this side of island by TRUCK......
Now dont misunderstand me, on a personal level, I like most truckies,
Salt of the earth......
But to clog up our costly roading system with heavy trucks,
while we got a maintenance free wet backyard?
( we are an island remember......we got almost no ships left,
but an island we are....)
I seriously wonder who fuckes , bribes or threathens who ......?
coz common sense is so far out of the window, people barely remember we once had some....
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