Police getting tougher on speed tolerance

[mossy1200]

A bloke pulls over to the side of the road, prior to doing a U-Turn. He then U-Turns into the path of an oncoming truck.

Actual crash. It happened a couple of weeks back South of CHristchurch.

Skoober, was the driver fixated by his speedo? I mean, really?

Speedo fixation is likely to feature in very few crashes, and those will be had by the numpties incapable of correctly judging the speed they are travelling at.

Should that read "Speed trap fixation is likely to feature in a few crashes, and those will be had by the numpties judging the speed people are travelling at".

I think the issue is the people watching the clock and doing 90 frustrating other road users making them take risks that they never used to take.

[mossy1200]

If you want get this correct have more passing lanes. Ticket the guy that holds up traffic and speeds up in the passing lane.
Ticket the guy that isn't doing 95-100 in the fast lane of a motorway.
Assssholes that drive 90 in the fast lane beside another vehicle doing 90 should have their licence revoked.

[R650R]

Speaking of looking at speedos, check out this whiney twat, filming himself speeding while handholding a video device (prob cellphone) to prove a mufti car is speeding on mway at 110k.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj9BM-mve54

Then be sure to strap yourself in and watch his other vide filming himself handheld again doing about 205k on the cheltnam-hunterville road with oncoming traffic. Real Darwin candidate as that's a bit of a narrower road out Kimbolton way at the back of Feilding.... What a muppett..... pot - kettle - black..... Think he needs a visit....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-5rlO7thqQ

[rastuscat]

So are you saying that if you are in your private car and a cop starts following you, you do not look at your speedo more than if he wasn't?
(assuming he does not know your private car)

It surprises me how easy I find it to sit at 100 without glancing at the speedo. I'm used to my car. Bike too, actually.

[Scuba_Steve]

Speaking of looking at speedos, check out this whiney twat, filming himself speeding while handholding a video device (prob cellphone) to prove a mufti car is speeding on mway at 110k.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj9BM-mve54

Then be sure to strap yourself in and watch his other vide filming himself handheld again doing about 205k on the cheltnam-hunterville road with oncoming traffic. Real Darwin candidate as that's a bit of a narrower road out Kimbolton way at the back of Feilding.... What a muppett..... pot - kettle - black..... Think he needs a visit....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-5rlO7thqQ

Imagine the look on his face when he finds out his speedo will be reading fast

I'm calling bullshit on that 2nd one tho, we have no signs higher than 100 & he showed a sign at 70 but the speedo he showed went well past both those numbers & we're meant to believe he was able to post the footage afterwards... The propaganda machine tells us time & time again that this would be impossible, he'd be dead! so clearly bullshit & faked

[GrayWolf]

It surprises me how easy I find it to sit at 100 without glancing at the speedo. I'm used to my car. Bike too, actually.

you know rastus, after 40yrs of riding I can also judge reasonably what speed I'm doing on my bike (dont own a car) and can judge reasonably the speed in the 'other' vehicle at work.
It isnt so much the straight line, or 'traffic' speed is it? The real 'bone of contention' is overtaking speed! Yes we can all argue the point of NZ drivers are bad in general, which as another pointed out, and I am from the UK, the level of politeness etc is far greater there than here. Things like the 'zipper' method of filtering, down the wellington roads (SH1 & SH2) they dont filter, they simply move across into the right hand lane, regardless of where the existing car is in that lane, and expect THEM to give way.
When responding to several of the points raised, you DO focus on this 'speedo watching'..

I went for a ride Sunday, and it was diabolical. 80kph in a 100kph limit... yup at the front of around 4-500mtrs queue? Mrs 70+yr old, doddering along in her 1990's holden barina, sat bolt upright, boobs all but touching the steering wheel, hands in a death grip, on the wheel. I slowly overtook the line of traffic, and when I got level to her, {without being nasty or offensive} pointed out she needed to pull over to let the traffic behind her get clear. She looked at me, then simply carried on her '1000 mile stare, death grip' driving. I could see the level of frustration building behind her, it showed in how some were driving.

Reduce speed, fine, do it, but to effectively reach your target NEEDS a concerted 'multi pronged' strategy. Actively be seen, and do as much 'advertising' that you will be targeting those going too slow, not moving left when there is no need to be in the right hand lanes. (yes i did read you post on how do you decide this to ping someone). However, lets be blunt here, if we are going over the limit, for whatever reason, and lets say for 5-10 seconds, like overtaking, the popo have a no excuse policy... apply the same methodology to the 'lane hogging', or, apply the same level of 'tolerance' (see there's that word again) if someone is overtaking and not doing a ridiculous speed.

now as for this 'tolerance' thing, remember, Laws may be passed and enacted, but compliance relies on the TOLERANCE' of the general public. If you think this is not so, I will refresh your memory on Mrs Thatchers 'Poll tax' of the 1980's, for 3 years the people tolerated, then they 'spoke'... no more poll tax. I doubt there is going to be the massive civil unrest that caused, and lets be honest politicians and your 'bosses' RELY on this 'complacency'. But mate, if you want the compliance and TOLERANCE of the public, you also need to be seen to be 'giving' back. Prosecuting the lane hoggers, and the slow for no reason drivers, to allow a much better steady flow of traffic would make the zero tolerance on speed far more acceptable....

[haydes55]

Police give massssssssssive tolerance to drivers who fail to keep left, police give huuuuge tolerances to drivers who fail to indicate and police give tolerances to people who cause crashes and somehow get away without a careless use of a motor vehicle charge. Why only cut the tolerance of one law, and leave massive tolerances on more dangerous laws?

[willytheekid]

you know rastus, after 40yrs of riding I can also judge reasonably what speed I'm doing on my bike (dont own a car) and can judge reasonably the speed in the 'other' vehicle at work.
It isnt so much the straight line, or 'traffic' speed is it? The real 'bone of contention' is overtaking speed! Yes we can all argue the point of NZ drivers are bad in general, which as another pointed out, and I am from the UK, the level of politeness etc is far greater there than here. Things like the 'zipper' method of filtering, down the wellington roads (SH1 & SH2) they dont filter, they simply move across into the right hand lane, regardless of where the existing car is in that lane, and expect THEM to give way.
When responding to several of the points raised, you DO focus on this 'speedo watching'..

I went for a ride Sunday, and it was diabolical. 80kph in a 100kph limit... yup at the front of around 4-500mtrs queue? Mrs 70+yr old, doddering along in her 1990's holden barina, sat bolt upright, boobs all but touching the steering wheel, hands in a death grip, on the wheel. I slowly overtook the line of traffic, and when I got level to her, {without being nasty or offensive} pointed out she needed to pull over to let the traffic behind her get clear. She looked at me, then simply carried on her '1000 mile stare, death grip' driving. I could see the level of frustration building behind her, it showed in how some were driving.

Reduce speed, fine, do it, but to effectively reach your target NEEDS a concerted 'multi pronged' strategy. Actively be seen, and do as much 'advertising' that you will be targeting those going too slow, not moving left when there is no need to be in the right hand lanes. (yes i did read you post on how do you decide this to ping someone). However, lets be blunt here, if we are going over the limit, for whatever reason, and lets say for 5-10 seconds, like overtaking, the popo have a no excuse policy... apply the same methodology to the 'lane hogging', or, apply the same level of 'tolerance' (see there's that word again) if someone is overtaking and not doing a ridiculous speed.

now as for this 'tolerance' thing, remember, Laws may be passed and enacted, but compliance relies on the TOLERANCE' of the general public. If you think this is not so, I will refresh your memory on Mrs Thatchers 'Poll tax' of the 1980's, for 3 years the people tolerated, then they 'spoke'... no more poll tax. I doubt there is going to be the massive civil unrest that caused, and lets be honest politicians and your 'bosses' RELY on this 'complacency'. But mate, if you want the compliance and TOLERANCE of the public, you also need to be seen to be 'giving' back. Prosecuting the lane hoggers, and the slow for no reason drivers, to allow a much better steady flow of traffic would make the zero tolerance on speed far more acceptable....

BANG FUCKING ON!!

Dear Gov't...

[caspernz]

Police give massssssssssive tolerance to drivers who fail to keep left, police give huuuuge tolerances to drivers who fail to indicate and police give tolerances to people who cause crashes and somehow get away without a careless use of a motor vehicle charge. Why only cut the tolerance of one law, and leave massive tolerances on more dangerous laws?

Between yourself and Graywolf, you've just re-written the manual for road policing in this country. But hold on, we can't have any of this European based logic over here mate! The cost to the taxpayer for this kind of training for the traffic section will be horrendous

Mind you, just looking at the shocking things some nitwits get up to in their cars...who'd want to volunteer for traffic duties anyway?

[haydes55]

Side note, rode coro again today, after about 5km of nothing but twisty 50-60km/h dawdling behind a queue of cars, the first straight I see and there's a speed camera van...... Even a speed nazi cop would agree that is simply the stupidest place for a speed camera. I was tempted to park behind it and try block the camera, but not sure how well my little bike would block the camera.

[mossy1200]

Speaking of looking at speedos, check out this whiney twat, filming himself speeding while handholding a video device (prob cellphone) to prove a mufti car is speeding on mway at 110k.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj9BM-mve54

Then be sure to strap yourself in and watch his other vide filming himself handheld again doing about 205k on the cheltnam-hunterville road with oncoming traffic. Real Darwin candidate as that's a bit of a narrower road out Kimbolton way at the back of Feilding.... What a muppett..... pot - kettle - black..... Think he needs a visit....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-5rlO7thqQ

What a dildo. Hope he gets pulled over.

[willytheekid]

...who'd want to volunteer for traffic duties anyway?

OOOOO...ME!!...PICK ME!!!

...But only if I can bring my own...tools!



-repeat drink drivers will become nothing but a messy memory!

[caspernz]

OOOOO...ME!!...PICK ME!!!

...But only if I can bring my own...tools!:shifty

-repeat drink drivers will become nothing but a messy memory!

Haha, yeah Willy I agree with that approach, but apparently there is something non-PC about that

Some days I just imagine I'm back in Bosnia, and the only three words that count are bearing range elevation. Much better than getting all bent out of shape over nitwits...

[unstuck]

[scumdog]

- but with the Police campaigns publicly declaring that they will be ticketing for 1 kph over -

Well I cannot recall any cop spokesman saying cops WILL be ticketing people for 1kph over - can somebody show me the such a quote??

MY take on it was that if you're 1kph over the limit you can expect to be stopped no mention of 'and will be issued a ticket for 1kph over the limit'.