Forum Grammar Poll

**PrincessBandit** · 6th January 2015, 11:48

From one of my favourite movies...(hopefully the link works)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7JmKW8xhrg

**Big Dog** · 6th January 2015, 11:58

I am not a grammar nazi, but if there are two differing opinions on the same topic that I know nothing about human nature dictates I will side with the most coherent and reasonable one. Sometimes that is as simple as opinion from an educated person vs. ClEarily dint finch 2 yeah high skool.

Personal pet peeves:
Youse.
People who use poor grammar to correct someone else.

Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

**willytheekid** · 6th January 2015, 12:23

Originally Posted by PrincessBandit

From one of my favourite movies...(hopefully the link works)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7JmKW8xhrg

Because were MEN!!...Men in TIGHTS!!

EVERYBODY NOW!!

no?....just me huh

(...I ride honda!...its not my fault

)

**unstuck** · 6th January 2015, 12:57

Originally Posted by bogan

Would also be you're and they're. You didn't pass my english test, but we can lower the standards for gay old gore... Hell, 33% is probably scholarship material in those parts

Good job I never went to school here then, or even the school in Auckland that I WAS supposed to go to.

**ellipsis** · 6th January 2015, 14:04

Originally Posted by unstuck

I have 11 teeth left,

...snap...

**bogan** · 6th January 2015, 14:05

Originally Posted by unstuck

Good job I never went to school here then, or even the school in Auckland that I WAS supposed to go to.

Well color me surprised

**husaberg** · 6th January 2015, 15:49

Originally Posted by R650R

Am I mean to be the soup Nazi or George lol....

**awayatc** · 6th January 2015, 15:54

Originally Posted by willytheekid

Because were MEN!!...Men in TIGHTS!!

we're men you moron.....not were men.....

get it right at least once..?
This is a thread about this very topic..

Feel better if post a few smiley's...?

**PrincessBandit** · 6th January 2015, 16:36

Originally Posted by awayatc

we're men you moron.....not were men.....

get it right at least once..?
This is a thread about this very topic..

Feel better if post a few smiley's...?

And, in fact, the line goes "We're men, MANLY MEN, we're men in tights, YES..." (in the second verse anyway

)

**Jantar** · 6th January 2015, 16:42

Originally Posted by BuzzardNZ

My pet peeve is those that don't know the difference between your and you're

Or yaw and yore.

**TheDemonLord** · 6th January 2015, 16:56

For me - I have a level of Grammar I expect - its not super high as I know mine can sometimes be off (when I type sometimes my brain tells me I have typed a word but my fingers haven't) but as a general rule - when you are doing any form of written communication (Email, Forum etc.) not taking a little time to make sure you are easily understood is IMO a mark of laziness and arrogance. I attempt to take time to make sure that for the most part, I use punctuation, paragraphs, well structured comments/arguments/points and make use of the in browser spellcheck.

I grant you I don't always get it right, but I like to think for the most part when I have been debating Hammer and Tongs with someone, that they at no point thought:

'WTF is the Demon guy trying to say?!?! I can't make head or tail of the drivel he has written"

(or at the very least, they think my opinion is drivel but not the writing)

**R650R** · 6th January 2015, 17:23

Originally Posted by husaberg

Didn't he pick up a real hot chick with that line....

Well I'll take the Soup Nazi then lol

Back to thread an interesting note from an Editors perspective, its wrong to interfere with a persons style if their use of grammar is part of that and the story.
Eg above the word 'youse' was mentioned, but in Caeser Campbells book about the bikie gang stuff he used that a lot. It would be wrong to correct it.
So in a thread who owns the body of work? Should everyone confirm to the thread authors standards or lack of standards or are individual posts individual pieces of work???
Food for thought....

**bogan** · 6th January 2015, 17:39

Originally Posted by R650R

Food for thought....

It's not though. Stories and articles are written for communication in one direction only, forums where the worth of an idea can be evaluated are generally two way communication. Such a narrative is inherently ill-suited for the discussion of ideas, so it only goes to reinforce the theory that proper grammar can indicate the worth of one's idea.

**R650R** · 6th January 2015, 18:24

Originally Posted by bogan

It's not though. Stories and articles are written for communication in one direction only, forums where the worth of an idea can be evaluated are generally two way communication. Such a narrative is inherently ill-suited for the discussion of ideas, so it only goes to reinforce the theory that proper grammar can indicate the worth of one's idea.

But to uphold a standard of grammar requires some form of control or ownership of the works. As even in high society publications with the best writers you could still find errors if you look hard enough.
I wonder if any of the spelling police here pull up bad speakers in public....

"Excuse me maam, did you just say L O L as the text speak work lol out loud? I'm sorry bitch but that's not a real fucking word, how I'm I supposed to evaluate your gossip if you don't dpeak proper fucking English?"

**bogan** · 6th January 2015, 18:31

Originally Posted by R650R

But to uphold a standard of grammar requires some form of control or ownership of the works. As even in high society publications with the best writers you could still find errors if you look hard enough.
I wonder if any of the spelling police here pull up bad speakers in public....

"Excuse me maam, did you just say L O L as the text speak work lol out loud? I'm sorry bitch but that's not a real fucking word, how I'm I supposed to evaluate your gossip if you don't dpeak proper fucking English?"

Because it is an intra societal exchange medium, society as a whole owns it. Grammar must conform to the consensus in order to maximise efficiency of idea exchange; it cannot conform to one person in this instance, and another somewhere else and remain at peak efficiency. It also cannot remain at peak efficiency with the number off buffoons butchering it, but at least there is still a benchmark.

Again, public speaking is unidirectional communication, and generally not subject to the same rigors of peer review. Additionally, one would find their listeners diminishing in number if the spoke with an inadequate grasp of the language.