Annual road toll up 44

[bogan]

Actually I'd say their are a lot. I think Casper is right though, few people ever complain through the right channels, preferring to rant on message boards or in smoko rooms...
But then who has time to play mall cop anyway, where do you draw the line.... I gave up ages ago and feel better for it, coincidentally the road toll dropped during that period hmmmmm.....

We tend to remember certain vehicle types when we have bad interactions eg trucks or police cars. The risk is prob perceived higher than it is...

The roundabout grand prix is a tough one though, lightly loaded it is easy to maintain quite a high speed in the outside lane, many cars damn near stop going though the inside lane. One persons view of OMG that's dangerous might just be business as usual and a car on the inside has panicked and slowed more than they need to.... Then there's people who are the first to approach a double lane traffic lights or roundabout and to lazy to use the left lane the get agro when someone comes along and burbles on through on momentum.....
But yes there are tools out there going past that and doing dumb stuff like you describe.... One chap I used to work with thought he could put his Quad chiller semi past me in the right hand lane of roundabout, it didnt work for him is all ill say.... neither did the time he redlined his truck to try and pass me when we had the same loads on up passing lanes.

Bosses get complaints all the timje, some legit and some not. If you have a genuine one you should make it.
We had one bullshitter who reckoned he had driven roadtrains in OZ (never mind the boss was too dumb to work out he was too young to have ever gained the right licence). Lots of colleagues at work complained but nothing happened.... until the head dispatcher was getting tyre changed and saw the muppett doing 90 in 50 zone passing cars on painted median like a freakin fire engine....

Now you must be doing it on purpose, shirley?

[R650R]

Now you must be doing it on purpose, shirley?

Stop teasing me with all your typos, its nearly getting me as excited as the cow avatar....

shurley, should be surely ;p and as its rhetorical question you don't need the question mark ;p

[bogan]

Stop teasing me with all your typos, its nearly getting me as excited as the cow avatar....

shurley, should be surely ;p and as its rhetorical question you don't need the question mark ;p

'Shirley' was a narrative literary device; and rhetorical questions are entitled to question marks. Your abilities are already slipping, please apply yourself more.

[dangerous]

If you as an experienced and capable rider (experienced on the race track) can crash on your own ... well under the speed limit ... how safe would/could not so experienced riders be .. at (or over) the posted speed limits .. ???

Would it have been more serious for you if you were on or (well) over the posted speed limit .. ???

heres the thing... if I was over the speed limit, it very well may not have happened different line, lean angle... no one will ever know the jury is still out on the reason as to why.

as for your 1st question... on the track you may have a point, but we are talking about the road, which as I said above could well be eralevent, diferent bike, different road, different weather conditions...

The thread is about the general toll over the xmas break... I dont think any bikes were included in the toll, I might be wrong.

'Stay off our fucking road.

thats "my" fucking road thanks... and there lieth 80% of the problem, its the kiwi way, our right to use the road not privlage

[unstuck]

I might be wrong.

Think there was one in cuntabury, but I might be wrong.

[Murray]

And unfortunately quite a few are driving trucks. Worst driving I have seen over the festive season a big truck overtaking a car on the outside lane of a roundabout at speed and then cutting infront of the car on the exit to the roundabout as it went into 1 lane then tailgating (scarily) the next car in front doing 80km in an 80 km zone. This was Tauranga to the Mount and traffic was busy.

Generally theres only 1 winner in a truck vs other vehicle collision.

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/truc...uranga-6215516

Coincidence???

[unstuck]

Finally someone sees the real menace on our roads. Give the man a DB.
Most truckies are ego maniacs with little dicks who need a big vehicle to compensate. Especially stock truck drivers, those fuckers need to be banned from the road unless they can prove they are competent of emptying their tanks and know how to monitor those tanks.
Milk tankers, just shoot the lot of the fuckers.

Coincidence????

[MD]

I'd like to know how many of these 44 deaths happened while travelling between 1 and 9 kph over posted limit. This is the new hip 'killing zone' that TPTB are so determined to convince us we must never travel at, for fear of instant anniliation.

[FJRider]

heres the thing... if I was over the speed limit, it very well may not have happened different line, lean angle... no one will ever know the jury is still out on the reason as to why.

as for your 1st question... on the track you may have a point, but we are talking about the road, which as I said above could well be eralevent, diferent bike, different road, different weather conditions...

The thread is about the general toll over the xmas break... I dont think any bikes were included in the toll, I might be wrong.

thats "my" fucking road thanks... and there lieth 80% of the problem, its the kiwi way, our right to use the road not privlage

Plenty crash into other vehicles ... that they would not have ... had their average speed have been higher. But ... how many did you MISS ... by not going faster .. ??? (the ones you almost hit)

On different days ... all roads can be different. At different times ... weather/traffic volume/vehicle used/your mood ... all can change how you ride/drive. Nothing new there ...

Nothing mentioned about any change in "Injury Accident" statistic numbers ... by comparison with previous years.

No matter how well you (or anybody else) can know or "own" a road ... it's only known as well as the last time you traveled it. Different days are/cad be different roads with different and variable conditions. Unless on closed and private roads ... you can never really be sure who or what is on that road. Be it an oil/fuel spill ... a rock/slab of wood/possum carcass/pedestrian ... or ... something ... else. In short ... plenty crash on roads they know well.

How many crashes you have (or have had) in any given time ... is too many .. ??? And are good accidents ... the one's you survive ... ???

[dangerous]

No matter how well you (or anybody else) can know or "own" a road ... it's only known as well as the last time you traveled it. Different days are/cad be different roads with different and variable conditions. Unless on closed and private roads ... you can never really be sure who or what is on that road. Be it an oil/fuel spill ... a rock/slab of wood/possum carcass/pedestrian ... or ... something ... else. In short ... plenty crash on roads they know well.

ohhh shit... that does it... everyone back in ya cotton wool and back inside

Plenty crash into other vehicles ... that they would not have ... had their average speed have been higher. But ... how many did you MISS ... by not going faster .. ??? (the ones you almost hit)

I have never 'almost hit' anything... well there was this sparrow one day but he/she got away due to my excessive speed making my fairing very aerodynamic, the bird went up n over, cept it shat itsself all over my visor... but come on dont be calling that a hit

[unstuck]

ohhh shit... that does it... everyone back in ya cotton wool and back inside


I have never 'almost hit' anything... well there was this sparrow one day but he/she got away due to my excessive speed making my fairing very aerodynamic, the bird went up n over, cept it shat itsself all over my visor... but come on dont be calling that a hit

Was it not you that had the ooopsy in the terrano on the gravel road?
Or was that the effect of some good weed on my part. My mind is playing tricks on me.

[dangerous]

Was it not you that had the ooopsy in the terrano on the gravel road?
Or was that the effect of some good weed on my part. My mind is playing tricks on me.

OHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... bring that up now aye
Ok good example of bad driving causing a accedent with out SPEED being involved.... and it was a navara not terano thankyou.

me driving on my side of a shingle road (with 2 under 5yr old sons) aproaching a left hand bend at the top of a wee rise in damp conditions (no dust) oncomming CUTTING A RIGHT HAND BEND (as cock sucking kiwi fuckwits do) came 5 in a company santafe... boom bang

whats ya point unstuck?

[FJRider]

whats ya point unstuck?

Consistent bouts of memory loss on your part ... maybe ... ???


Age does that ...

[mada]

Bullshit Castle PNHQ will probably come out with a statement like "better reporting of stats" or "adjustment"

[dangerous]

How can other countries with way more traffic on the road have lower road tolls if it is that simple? Their traffic is also increasing every year.
Check your shelf full of books for dummies and let us know?.

BECAUSE... LMFAO... a lot of your "other countrys" have a HIGHER legal speed limit than we do, eg: OZ 110kph-NT having open limits, the auto barn...

theres are answer to the road toll... increase the speed limit, thanks Tazz